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Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by gruez on Friday October 16, 2026 @12:32PM (#50120548)
>Someone signed off on software/hardware that lacked sufficient protections, find out who.

Crashed prod? Straight to jail.

Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by CountHackulus on Friday October 16, 2026 @12:59PM (#50121034)
Bridge collapsed? Straight to jail.
Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by gruez on Friday October 16, 2026 @01:13PM (#50121252)
not true: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacoma_Narrows_Bridge_(1940) nothing happened to the lead designer (Moisseiff) or engineer (Eldridge)
Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by JumpCrisscross on Friday October 16, 2026 @04:12PM (#50123928)
> nothing happened to the lead designer (Moisseiff) or engineer (Eldridge)

It's a joke–a riff on a Parks and Recs meme making fun of Venezuela at the time. We don't jail aircraft engineers when they make a mistake because just sending people to jail doesn't work as well as encouraging them to co-operate ex post facto so the root cause can be identified.

Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by gruez on Friday October 16, 2026 @04:21PM (#50124057)
>It's a joke–a riff on a Parks and Recs meme making fun of Venezuela at the time.

Poe's law strikes again. Of course nobody thinks crashing prod should result in jail, or most software engineers would have spent some time behind bars by now. However it's entirely unclear whether @CountHackulus meant "of course autonomous car engineers should be jailed, just as if an engineer signed off on faulty plans" (which to be fair, also happens), or is just repeating my joke with bridges.

Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by JumpCrisscross on Friday October 16, 2026 @04:24PM (#50124103)
> of course nobody thinks crashing prod should result in jail

You'd be surprised at how many intelligent people really do want this.

Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by tjwebbnorfolk on Friday October 16, 2026 @05:00PM (#50124623)
Exactly, people on HN want new laws passed every time Cloudflare goes down for 5 minutes
Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by JumpCrisscross on Friday October 16, 2026 @05:20PM (#50124912)
To be fair, Cloudflare is near or at the point where they should be regulated as a utility.
Re:Hello Toronto – Waymo Is En Route by CountHackulus on Friday October 23, 2026 @10:58AM (#50210180)
I was joining in the joke and pointing out the absurdity of that, when that's a big reason why a PEng designation exists.