Sergey Brin says Google's AI models are reaching recursive self-improvement

Re:Sergey Brin says Google's AI models are reaching recursiv... by chaostheory on Friday October 16, 2026 @01:42AM (#50114514)

If Argon was impressive, I would maybe believe it. Right now, argon is not even close to Opus 5.5 or even 6.1 Sol. It can’t even infer intent as well as Gemini 3.1 Pro. Google has yet to release a frontier class model imo

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Re:Sergey Brin says Google's AI models are reaching recursiv... by smashers1114 on Friday October 16, 2026 @02:10AM (#50114714)

I disagree somewhat. I think internally OpenAI, Anthropic and Google are probably all pretty close right now. Argon is competitive with Opus 5.5 and Astra. It might be third, but its competitive at least. Its becoming more apparent that different models are RL'd for different tasks.

Astra (or broadly openAI) are best for mathematics, 3D modeling, and vision. Opus 5.5 is best at like visual design (or just in general adding more taste and feel)

Now, it can depend on your definition of frontier class model. But Argon is a strong model. Google is not running a distant third. If OpenAI and Anthropic shut down they would have the strongest model on the market in like 2 months imo. Google does suck at shipping (maybe due to an unusual amount of dogfooding models internally?)

And we know all the labs have stronger internal models than their public releases.

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