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Re:An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4 by robmcm on Friday January 04, 2013 @08:39AM (#5007517)
I still think the iPhone 4 &< had the best screen size for ergonomics. I don't think you can contest that.

The iPhone 5 compromises to make the screen bigger, but only by a little.

I don't think I could use a 4" device like a Nexus 4 (I have a Nexus S which was a good size), on my commute where I need to hold onto a handle of the train, underground with one hand, smartphone in other.

Re:An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4 by krschultz on Friday January 04, 2013 @09:16AM (#5007669)
You don't think that's contestable? It's one of the most absurd things to say. It's impossible for a device to be perfectly ergonomic for everyone.

I have big hands. I loved the original Xbox controller before they shrank it. I love bigger phones. I find the iPhone 4 and earlier too damn small for me.

The Apple commercials with someone hand showing that it is "perfect size" are simply laughable. Lets have someone with small, medium, and large hands film that commercial and you will see how ridiculous the concept of "perfect size" is.

Re:An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4 by shinratdr on Friday January 04, 2013 @03:01PM (#5009507)
Sorry but while it may not work for everyone it is close to the perfect size for most people. You even acknowledge it with your comment about the original Xbox controller. I've never met a single person who thinks that controller was appropriately sized.
Re:An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4 by clarky07 on Friday January 04, 2013 @04:48PM (#5010161)
Nobody said perfect for everyone. It is however, very likely, better for more people than anything else. There are a few people with large hands that liked the original xbox controller. There are 0 people in the world who think it was the best size for most people. It's just not. The same goes for the Samsung Note (1 and 2). It's objectively not the correct phone size for most people, but there is a large subset (in raw numbers, not percentage) that likes the huge phone.
Re:An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4 by css771 on Friday January 04, 2013 @08:54AM (#5007568)
Oh I think it's very contestable. I use my Galaxy Nexus one handed all the time in many situations, including on public transport. Can iPhone users please stop saying that their device has the best ergonomics of all time as if the ratio came down from the heavens. I don't see how people can even think something like a perfect size exists suitable for every human being. To each their own.
Re:An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4 by mitchty on Friday January 04, 2013 @01:19PM (#5008884)
A perfect size doesn't exist for every human being. But the average thumb travel for adult males is 4 inches. For adult women it is 3.8. The width directly impacts usability for over 50% of the human population. Get over 3.5 inches and you're having to fidget with the phone to go side to side while holding the phone.

There are actual limits to width that have to be take into consideration. Just because you might have a hand large enough for a nexus, does not mean every human, or even adult male for that matter shares that trait. And you're guaranteed less women share that trait.

Re:An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4 by edtechdev on Saturday January 05, 2013 @09:28AM (#5012703)
One day maybe Apple will invent a device for those few of us who have two hands
Re:An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4 by robmcm on Friday January 04, 2013 @08:57AM (#5007583)
I am saying the ergonomics are worse on the iPhone 5 for me and I believe I have slightly larger than average hands.

Perhaps you have large hands, and loved the original XBox controller, but you would be in a minority.

Re:An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4 by w1ntermute on Friday January 04, 2013 @09:39AM (#5007763)
> I still think the iPhone 4 &< had the best screen size for ergonomics. I don't think you can contest that.

Yes, I can. It's complete bullshit. All the arguments for why the iPhone 4 form factor was the best are now being used to claim that the iPhone 5 is the best by a lot of the same people. That just goes to show that you can manipulate that argument to work with whatever screen size you want.

Re:An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4 by robmcm on Friday January 04, 2013 @10:42AM (#5008065)
I don't think anyone is saying the iPhone 5 is easier to use in one hand than the iPhone 4.

The argument that a smaller screen, allows for a smaller surface area, that is easier to navigate is obvious.

3.5 is easier to use than 4 which is easier than 5.

People may say a 4 inch screen is better in general (because the forgive ergonomics for real estate), but not in ergonomics alone.

Re:An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4 by orangecat on Friday January 04, 2013 @11:27PM (#5011597)
The argument that a smaller screen, allows for a smaller surface area, that is easier to navigate is obvious.

That's not obvious at all. Larger screens can allow for larger touch targets, and by showing more content they can reduce the need for "navigation" in the first place.

Re:An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4 by robmcm on Monday January 07, 2013 @08:34AM (#5020843)
OK so to state the obvious we are talking about using a device in the hand that is holding it.
Re:An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4 by revscat on Friday January 04, 2013 @10:48AM (#5008100)
> All the arguments for why the iPhone 4 form factor was the best are now being used to claim that the iPhone 5 is the best by a lot of the same people.

Citation needed.

Re:An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4 by kalleboo on Friday January 04, 2013 @09:20AM (#5007682)
Some people have larger hands than others. Android gives you the whole range from an Xperia tipo to the Note. On the iPhone, unless you want to compromise performance, you have one phone.
Re:An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4 by sbuk on Saturday January 05, 2013 @03:40AM (#5012100)
The ecosystem may give you a choice in size, but that has an impact on power. Take the Tipo, woeful screen and battery life as well as being desperately underpowered. So, no, there isn't really a choice. If you want a useable device, these days you are looking at 4" plus.
Re:An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4 by robmcm on Friday January 04, 2013 @10:45AM (#5008079)
Valid point, well put.

The danger is that changes to screen size aren't always reflected by the software, so you may have a small screen that scales down, or a large screen with wasted real estate. See the host of apps that haven't update for the iPhone 5 screen yet!!!

Re:An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4 by estebank on Friday January 04, 2013 @04:52PM (#5010178)
Keep in mind that the Android SDK has quite a few features that allow you to create liquid layouts that will work fairly well on most device sizes, as precisely because the Android OS comes on a great variety of hardware, this problem had to be addressed early on, while on iOS every time a new screen size/pixel density comes along you have to create an all new view.

I'll acknowledge that many times you have to fiddle a bit to make sure that your Android view works well on a variety of screens, but usually you can target between 3 and 4 layouts and have a usable UI for all devices from 10" tablets all the way down to small feature phones.

Re:An iPhone lover’s confession: I switched to the Nexus 4 by telcodud on Friday January 04, 2013 @02:53PM (#5009444)
The Nexus S is a 4" device and I agree that it was a good size. OTOH, Nexus 4 has a 4.7" display.