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Re:Codex CLI installs a persistent, self-updating background... by theowaway213456 on Monday October 12, 2026 @03:12PM (#50061347)
How do you even write a harness that can use a Claude subscription? I thought it was not allowed by Anthropic's ToS and can get you banned?
Re:Codex CLI installs a persistent, self-updating background... by rfgplk on Monday October 12, 2026 @03:55PM (#50062072)
If you're using the sub, only OpenAI (via the OAuth token) is viable. Claude is API_KEY only
Re:Codex CLI installs a persistent, self-updating background... by sroussey on Monday October 12, 2026 @03:16PM (#50061454)
That’s a different discussion.
Re:Codex CLI installs a persistent, self-updating background... by fasterik on Monday October 12, 2026 @03:34PM (#50061764)
I suspect a lot of people wouldn't use AI if they had to pay per token at current rates. Yes, it's technically a different discussion, but "just write your own harness" isn't really an answer for the vast majority of us riding on the investor-subsidized subscription plans.
Re:Codex CLI installs a persistent, self-updating background... by agentdev001 on Monday October 12, 2026 @03:17PM (#50061461)
It's allowed, but you get bumped to per token pricing.
Re:Codex CLI installs a persistent, self-updating background... by bhelkey on Monday October 12, 2026 @03:38PM (#50061834)
That defeats the purpose of using the Claude subscription.
Re:Codex CLI installs a persistent, self-updating background... by arcanemachiner on Monday October 12, 2026 @07:39PM (#50064570)
Not true; They rolled back some of the changes you're thinking about IIRC.
Re:Codex CLI installs a persistent, self-updating background... by colinmarc on Monday October 12, 2026 @05:30PM (#50063320)
It's trivial to bypass this by tweaking the system prompt in other harnesses. They use string matching and a blacklist.

https://x.com/FlorianKluge/status/2041855675295318039

(Whether that's against the ToS is not clear.)

Re:Codex CLI installs a persistent, self-updating background... by pugz on Monday October 12, 2026 @06:43PM (#50064110)
Amp recently achieved it. Apparently it's permitted as long as you use the Claude Agent SDK. https://ampcode.com/news/use-your-claude-plan
Re:Codex CLI installs a persistent, self-updating background... by reacharavindh on Tuesday October 13, 2026 @06:33AM (#50069544)
This is bait and switch..

You can’t just use your Claude sub on a third party harness without getting blocked even if you use the Agent SDK. Apparently, Anthropic gives “credits” depending on your sub and you can use those _credits_ when you use third party harnesses or Claude -p mode. That usage is not the same Claude sub one would assume it is… It is all quite deceiving. Don’t get a Claude sub unless you’re okay with being locked into Claude Code…

Re:Codex CLI installs a persistent, self-updating background... by _flux on Monday October 12, 2026 @11:49PM (#50066411)
I don't use Claude, but it appears it is permitted to use Claude as a stdin/stdout -communicated tool using JSON, or use Claude SDK, with the monthly plans. Monthly Max/Team plans also include credits that could be used directly via the API: https://support.claude.com/en/articles/17154008-monthly-api-... .

E.g. OpenCode can be used with all three methods. Looks like it needs a plugin for the two Claude methods, though.