Re:OpenAI, the Partition Principle, and Mathematics
by skinner_ on Friday October 09, 2026 @04:11AM
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I am a mathematician, and I do have the incentive to read the results. Two results in the drop were two major life goals of mine, and all I got was three lousy citations. :) But a third question I've spent a lot of time on is a not-so-hard consequence of one of the lemmas in there. So, yeah, I do have the incentive.
Of course, it's not clear at this point whether reporting such a result even matters, but still. In its own right, it's a very cool result.
Re:OpenAI, the Partition Principle, and Mathematics
by YeGoblynQueenne on Friday October 09, 2026 @08:54AM
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Thanks for your perspective, genuinely.
What do you do if those results suck like in the article?
Re:OpenAI, the Partition Principle, and Mathematics
by skinner_ on Friday October 09, 2026 @10:23PM
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The statements of the lemmas are quite clear. We can write it up if we spot that they have important consequences. The proofs are impenetrable to me, for three reasons: they are very complex, they are badly structured, and they use math unfamiliar to me. So I haven't looked too deeply yet. Maybe when they get their autoformalization stamps of approval.
Re:OpenAI, the Partition Principle, and Mathematics
by robotpepi on Friday October 09, 2026 @04:41PM
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Of course, everyone is curious about these results, we're mathematicians after all. But by incentives I refer to those things that really sustain the system: obtaining permanent positions, grants for future projects, ideas for PhD theses, etc.
Re:OpenAI, the Partition Principle, and Mathematics
by skinner_ on Friday October 09, 2026 @10:12PM
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The future is uncertain, so the safe thing to do is write it up if we discover some useful connection between our research and the openai results. Maybe it matters for getting positions grants etc, maybe not. Ideas for new results: the openai drop is full of those.
Re:OpenAI, the Partition Principle, and Mathematics
by robotpepi on Saturday October 10, 2026 @02:15AM
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It seems like you didn't answer the question.
Re:OpenAI, the Partition Principle, and Mathematics
by skinner_ on Saturday October 10, 2026 @03:24PM
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Maybe I misunderstood the question. I'll give it a second go, maybe I'll fail again. Feel free to reformulate.
The term SOTA suggest that you approach this from a perspective other than a pure mathematician's, maybe ML or computational complexity? The openai results help me answer other open questions. It's a yes/no thing: is question answered or not? It's not a question of "okay, but will AI win back the SOTA from me again?"
The problem is that right now mathematicians don't have the economical incentive to read these AI generated results. Even if you love mathematics and all that, it's always more important to get a job, and for that it doesn't seem like a good idea to invest time around problems that AI touches because you can't compete with it and you don't know if tomorrow they'll improve by x10 the sota.