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Re:US Suspends Visa Program for Tech Firms Including Microsoft by JumpCrisscross on Thursday October 08, 2026 @12:48PM (#50008238)
> If we had a union we would be training people from customer support to engineer

This, to my knowledge, very rarely works.

> software would be improved immensely if all developers spent a few years doing tech support for the elderly

This, on the other hand, absolutely does.

Re:US Suspends Visa Program for Tech Firms Including Microsoft by simonw on Thursday October 08, 2026 @12:56PM (#50008371)
I've worked with several excellent people in my career who progressed from customer support to QA to QA engineer to software engineer.

It's not common though, and I don't think it's a case of "training". Some people have the drive to figure that path out, and those people should be encouraged and supported.

Re:US Suspends Visa Program for Tech Firms Including Microsoft by JumpCrisscross on Thursday October 08, 2026 @01:13PM (#50008641)
> Some people have the drive to figure that path out, and those people should be encouraged and supported

Totally agree. I don’t think that means institutionalizing that pipeline is likely to yield those folks. They’re rare.

Re:US Suspends Visa Program for Tech Firms Including Microsoft by gopher_space on Thursday October 08, 2026 @01:04PM (#50008503)
> This, to my knowledge, very rarely works.

Strictly a function of management quality and experience.

Re:US Suspends Visa Program for Tech Firms Including Microsoft by autoexec on Thursday October 08, 2026 @01:11PM (#50008619)
Not everyone is interested in programing. Some people are amazing at customer support and super extroverted and seek out jobs where they interact with customers and would be miserable looking at code all day. The opportunity should be there, but some people are just never going to be engineers. Management quality can't fix that.
Re:US Suspends Visa Program for Tech Firms Including Microsoft by gopher_space on Thursday October 08, 2026 @08:18PM (#50014291)
> Not everyone is interested in programing.

This isn't a pipeline, it's a pool.

Actually, let's think of it as a stew. Lots of different base ingredients, add seasoning and heat. When the individual bits are delicious they start bubbling up to the surface. Not every bit is a carrot or chunk of meat. Some are potato, maybe that's a bean.