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Re:Classic PC demoscene productions running natively in the ... by venzaspa on Thursday October 08, 2026 @10:43AM (#50006399)
> you can output more faster

I think the point is your not outputting anything. For crud apps that's fine but an activity where the whole point of it is to show off your technical skills it seems quite pointless.

Re:Classic PC demoscene productions running natively in the ... by micromacrofoot on Thursday October 08, 2026 @10:47AM (#50006469)
That's a bit nonsense though isn't it? The bot isn't showing up to the party and coming up with a plan to present. The person is operating the machine, and without the person there's no output.

If I can beat someone's technical skills with AI what are their technical skills worth? That's the question that a lot of people are struggling with right now.

If you can come up with a problem that a human can solve better without AI, then that's an interesting competition and the tools involved wouldn't end up mattering much.

Now if the contest is "who can develop the best/smallest/fastest app without AI" that's completely fine, there are similarly "who can cut the most grass with a scythe" competitions and everyone involved knows what they're signing up for and has a good time. Nothing wrong with that.

Re:Classic PC demoscene productions running natively in the ... by plastic-enjoyer on Thursday October 08, 2026 @11:20AM (#50006897)
> The person is operating the machine, and without the person there's no output.

> If I can beat someone's technical skills with AI what are their technical skills worth? That's the question that a lot of people are struggling with right now.

I could turn up on a chess competition with a chess machine and beat my opponents with it, but that is not the point of chess competitions

Re:Classic PC demoscene productions running natively in the ... by micromacrofoot on Thursday October 08, 2026 @12:06PM (#50007564)
Well of course, they have rules preventing it. No one's saying "you can't have rules that ban AI from demoscene" or "Demoscene must use AI." There are also exhibitions where chess pros compete against machines.
Re:Classic PC demoscene productions running natively in the ... by bananaboy on Thursday October 08, 2026 @05:43PM (#50012761)
This isn't about a chess pro competing against a machine, this is about someone showing up and saying they're going to enter the competition but instead they run a chess program, and claim that they played against the chess pro and beat them.
Re:Classic PC demoscene productions running natively in the ... by micromacrofoot on Friday October 09, 2026 @02:13PM (#50024530)
if it's not explicitly forbidden that would be part of the game, no?
Re:Classic PC demoscene productions running natively in the ... by gewetensleegte on Friday October 09, 2026 @06:01PM (#50027123)
You should have a little bit more respect.
Re:Classic PC demoscene productions running natively in the ... by gewetensleegte on Friday October 09, 2026 @06:00PM (#50027117)
Because, in the demoscene, that would be utterly lame. You'd be a lamer. You'd be a disgrace for even suggesting such a thing. You would not be welcome.