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Re:Why Were Victorian Elites So Effective? by true_religion on Thursday October 08, 2026 @08:28AM (#50005023)
That's comparable to the Victorian elites' situation, where they only count people directly employed by the home office, and ignore the so called independent colonial administration as if it's a completely different category of human.

Are they not also Victorian Elites, or did they lose that status by not being in Britain?

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Re:Why Were Victorian Elites So Effective? by gampleman on Thursday October 08, 2026 @09:57AM (#50005865)
Above we are counting them. This about ~10000 people total, most of them abroad. We are not counting military since these are civil servants, but neither are we counting military today.
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Re:Why Were Victorian Elites So Effective? by true_religion on Thursday October 08, 2026 @05:31PM (#50012614)
I feel like not counting the military is silly in that case, because the military in colonies was essentially involved in police actions, engineering duties, and ensuring administrative rules were followed.

As an essential part of the colony, you can't really count them out. That's similar to how in feudal structures, and military regimes, I'd count the military and civil service as one entity.

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