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Re:Nobel Prize in Physics goes to Francis Halzen by IAmBroom on Tuesday October 06, 2026 @03:22PM (#49982831)
To be more perfectly precise, it is only in a vacuum with an infinitely repeating regular signal that "phase velocity of light" = "group velocity of light".

The deviation caused by uncertainty in the package arrival time is typically extremely short, but not zero, for finite signals.

The actual "entity" that is restricted to be <=c is "information velocity". An infinitely repeating pattern would have travel at (phase velocity)=c ... but would ironically transmit no actual information (the bit value is restricted to 1, not 0 or 1).

Re:Nobel Prize in Physics goes to Francis Halzen by rramadass on Wednesday October 07, 2026 @12:30AM (#49988195)
Nice. Trying to read/understand "RF Systems and Modulation" is what got me interested in this subject in the first place.

So in my mind i map your comment as; the "carrier signal" single analog frequency is the infinitely repeating regular wave (no information) traveling at v(p) while the "information signal" (analog/digital) imposed on top of it (frequency/amplitude/phase modulation) creates the informational pulse/wave packet traveling at v(g).

Add in different media in the real world and you have a difference between v(g) and v(p) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49988070

Re:Nobel Prize in Physics goes to Francis Halzen by IAmBroom on Thursday October 08, 2026 @10:04AM (#50005946)
Wow, yes, great perspective!