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Re:AI 'godfather' LeCun has 'zero concerns' about human exti... by bko on Sunday October 04, 2026 @05:43PM (#49958200)
What would convince you that it is AGI?

I always here things like "oh it's useful but dumb on some things", but it's just vague.

What is the test? What is a question that it fails at compared to humans? And no, you can't just say "find me the cure for cancer", but I believe there is probably enough intelligence in the weights that there is likely a cure in there with enough compute and the right questions.

Re:AI 'godfather' LeCun has 'zero concerns' about human exti... by oxag3n on Sunday October 04, 2026 @07:54PM (#49959206)
When it can replace a white collar remote worker without humans team realizing they work with the machine. And no, Agents are not like this whatever initial prompt and set of skills you give them. They still won't progress, learn and apply that knowledge like a human.
Re:AI 'godfather' LeCun has 'zero concerns' about human exti... by autuni on Monday October 05, 2026 @02:59AM (#49961531)
sounds like the Turing Test all over again
Re:AI 'godfather' LeCun has 'zero concerns' about human exti... by jaykru on Sunday October 04, 2026 @05:56PM (#49958304)
The fact that you need to ask "the right questions" is why it's not AGI. A general intelligence should be able to ask of its own volition the interesting questions required to advance its goals.
Re:AI 'godfather' LeCun has 'zero concerns' about human exti... by nharziro on Sunday October 04, 2026 @10:18PM (#49959991)
Most humans can't and don't ask these questions.
Re:AI 'godfather' LeCun has 'zero concerns' about human exti... by byzantinegene on Monday October 05, 2026 @01:42AM (#49961080)
we're not talking about most humans here, we're talking about the capabilites of the universe of humans.
Re:AI 'godfather' LeCun has 'zero concerns' about human exti... by bko on Monday October 05, 2026 @07:18AM (#49963395)
Why?

Humans don't ask the right questions otherwise they could get the answers w enough compute. So humans aren't agi?

Again w the vagueness. It's not agi because it doesn't ask the right questions. What are the right questions? Who knows.

You're proving my point

Re:AI 'godfather' LeCun has 'zero concerns' about human exti... by ttoinou on Monday October 05, 2026 @08:29AM (#49963979)
AGI doesn't mean Omniscience
Re:AI 'godfather' LeCun has 'zero concerns' about human exti... by jibalt on Sunday October 04, 2026 @08:08PM (#49959295)
> What is the test? What is a question that it fails at compared to humans?

Human intelligence does not consist of answering questions.

And every day I have to say "No, you stupid clanker ...", so if this is "general intelligence", it's the intelligence of an idiot savant who is good at calculations but sucks at most other forms of intelligence.

Re:AI 'godfather' LeCun has 'zero concerns' about human exti... by jackweirdy on Sunday October 04, 2026 @06:04PM (#49958366)
I can’t predict how a novel intelligence could prove to me that it is intelligent. A novel intelligence would have to work out how to do that for itself
Re:AI 'godfather' LeCun has 'zero concerns' about human exti... by slopinthebag on Sunday October 04, 2026 @06:14PM (#49958461)
i think we'll know agi when we see it, but we can't really predict what that will look like