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Re:The AI Race Just Got Awkward by skybrian on Wednesday September 30, 2026 @12:29PM (#49911034)
Okay, you’re asserting that but I disagree. Why should anyone else be convinced? Why can’t we get the good uses without the harms? It doesn’t seem like an unavoidable tradeoff.
Re:The AI Race Just Got Awkward by iamnothere on Wednesday September 30, 2026 @12:42PM (#49911240)
Well then do your best, people like me will keep sharing models just fine. (Not like I even do anything with them, but I’m a compulsive data hoarder.) It’s not like the copyright industry has been able to stop sharing either, and there’s serious money at stake there.

I predict that the AI scaremongering will fizzle out when the bubble bursts. There will still be die-hard believers but the public will lose interest.

Re:The AI Race Just Got Awkward by skybrian on Wednesday September 30, 2026 @12:54PM (#49911436)
You’re not releasing new models though.

I don’t see how a stock market crash will make AI-related concerns go away. There was a dot-com crash but the Internet just kept getting bigger and causing more problems. In many ways security has improved, but we worry more than ever about social media, etc.

Re:The AI Race Just Got Awkward by iamnothere on Wednesday September 30, 2026 @01:10PM (#49911675)
I guess I don’t really see the internet as a disaster, sure it brings issues but so did factories and mass production, and so will AI.
Re:The AI Race Just Got Awkward by skybrian on Wednesday September 30, 2026 @02:05PM (#49912310)
I wouldn’t say the Internet is a disaster either, but there are disasters where people died due to factories exploding, letting off toxic gases (like in Bhopal), and so on. That’s why there are regulations to try to prevent industrial accidents.

For Internet-related disasters where people died, see [1].

I would bet that there will be AI-related disasters. Arguably the US bombing a school in Iran counts, though it seems to be due to organizational issues, too.

[1] https://chatgpt.com/s/t_6abd4e3226b48191a26a0fe6768c722f

Re:The AI Race Just Got Awkward by short_sells_poo on Wednesday September 30, 2026 @12:34PM (#49911108)
I agree that it isn't an unavoidable tradeoff in principle, but looking back at our (as in humanity) track record, it is 99% likely to be.
Re:The AI Race Just Got Awkward by skybrian on Wednesday September 30, 2026 @12:38PM (#49911194)
Populist doomers will tell you that nobody can be trusted, no global problems will ever be solved, nothing can be done, game over, don’t even try.

People did use global agreements and regulation to fix the ozone hole, though, so I think there’s a chance.