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Re:It's Time to Investigate the AI Labs by gizajob on Tuesday September 29, 2026 @07:19AM (#49891343)
You can’t say to an autopilot “create an excel spreadsheet of the current vectors and conditions and upload it to google docs”.
Re:It's Time to Investigate the AI Labs by throwawayffffas on Tuesday September 29, 2026 @07:35AM (#49891483)
You can't say that to an mri machine that detects and highlights tumors. You can't say it to jev either, nor googles spam filters. But all these are built in the same way as any LLM. The term AI is not restricted to chat based LLMs.
Re:It's Time to Investigate the AI Labs by gizajob on Tuesday September 29, 2026 @07:39AM (#49891509)
None of that applies to autopilots though and it’s disingenuous for anyone to say that an autopilot is an AI rather than an automated system designed for a very specific task.

An autopilot is cybernetic without being intelligent.

Re:It's Time to Investigate the AI Labs by throwawayffffas on Tuesday September 29, 2026 @07:42AM (#49891530)
Read wongsarus comment above.
Re:It's Time to Investigate the AI Labs by Sharlin on Tuesday September 29, 2026 @07:46AM (#49891588)
That is neither a sufficient nor necessary condition for something to be AI.
Re:It's Time to Investigate the AI Labs by gizajob on Tuesday September 29, 2026 @07:54AM (#49891665)
I was giving a framing around its complete lack of generality or intelligence. Rather than contemporary definitions of AI shifting, what is being shown is that previous definitions of AI were misapplied in the hope that the field might bootstrap itself into existence, which it’s done.

As I’ve said elsewhere - an autopilot is cybernetic, it responds to inputs and stimulus in data but it doesn’t possess anything we’d now regard as falling under intelligence because it’s a strictly coded deterministic system and designed for it’s specific environment. I couldn’t take the autopilot from a Boeing and put it into an Airbus and hope for any kind of useful result. I could take a human pilot trained on a Boeing and put them in an Airbus or a Cessna, and if push came to shove in an emergency, they could probably do a decent job of getting the thing pointed in the right direction and landed on the ground.