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Re:Ember-1 by verdverm on Sunday September 27, 2026 @06:35PM (#49871507)
the pricing is the same, where are you seeing double?
Re:Ember-1 by tyingq on Sunday September 27, 2026 @08:58PM (#49872355)
K3 is cheaper from other providers. $1/$9, though I can't speak to how good those providers are.

https://openrouter.ai/moonshotai/kimi-k3

Re:Ember-1 by polski-g on Sunday September 27, 2026 @11:55PM (#49873446)
K3 TOS says they must sell no lower than what Moonshot charges. If you have a provider selling for less than $15/mtok, they are violating TOS from Moonshot.
Re:Ember-1 by verdverm on Monday September 28, 2026 @12:37AM (#49873693)
looks like the underlying vendor is charging correct prices https://inference.net/models/kimi-k3/

however the listing on open router has a `/fp4` suffix, so perhaps this is an unlisted, quanted model for a lower price?

Re:Ember-1 by verdverm on Sunday September 27, 2026 @09:25PM (#49872491)
as the saying goes, you get what you pay for

we require ZDR and Fireworks provides that on contract, so for us they are the same price

Re:Ember-1 by indigodaddy on Sunday September 27, 2026 @10:26PM (#49872857)
Check out Neuralwatt. They are ZDR and great energy based K3 pricing. They also have a K3-fast which is basically no reasoning (in addition to regular K3).
Re:Ember-1 by verdverm on Sunday September 27, 2026 @11:05PM (#49873109)
that is nothing like how we consume Ai

industry standard is price-per-1M tokens, don't do something different, even Google caved and moved from their char based pricing to tokens (the fundamental unit of computation in ai)

Re:Ember-1 by Bolwin on Monday September 28, 2026 @02:14AM (#49874255)
Why are you assuming the gpus are rented?

Anyway, they still have token based pricing if you prefer. The energy pricing is often cheaper though

Re:Ember-1 by verdverm on Monday September 28, 2026 @10:16AM (#49878367)
Not interested, it looks amateur

A trust page is required like https://trust.fireworks.ai

Very happy with my $10/month OpenCode Go sub for personal use

https://trust.opencode.ai/

Re:Ember-1 by indigodaddy on Monday September 28, 2026 @06:46PM (#49885528)
Energy based is way more fundamental than token based. To each their own.