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Re:Great News from Saturn's Moon Enceladus in the Search for... by trimethylpurine on Sunday September 27, 2026 @01:03PM (#49868534)
There might be, but we've never seen one. The culture with the lesser weapons is subjected to inferior quality of life when compared to the oppressing culture in all cases in history.

So, it might be worth entertaining whether you can convince everyone in your culture to be subservient?

Here again, historically that's never happened, so it's not worth believing. And that's just to check if there's a better solution. You might arrive at an even worse outcome.

Revolutions require even bigger weapons, despite sometimes having better long term outcomes. How many people have to die to test our theory?

Genghis Khan created centuries of peace horrifically with bigger guns. The Ottoman Turks similarly did. The US, now. And many more cases that we know of. All of these examples coincidentally allowed multiculturalism, and even more, they enforced it as a matter of law. Just as an interesting side point.

Life is terrible in all cases in history where it's not clear who has the biggest guns. That's always been the demarcation of the beginning of a new regime at the cost of millions of lives.

Revolutions are horrible. That's what we know for sure.

Re:Great News from Saturn's Moon Enceladus in the Search for... by trimethylpurine on Sunday September 27, 2026 @03:17PM (#49869910)
I want to clarify my side point. I brought up multiculturalism because I think these societies find that to be a requirement for peace once they've established military superiority.

I want to clarify that because I could see someone taking that statement to mean that multiculturalism is inherently wrong, which is the opposite of what I'm saying.

Re:Great News from Saturn's Moon Enceladus in the Search for... by rsynnott on Sunday September 27, 2026 @05:10PM (#49870873)
Huh? There have been lots of extremely nasty things which there has been implicit or explicit international agreement not to develop and/or deploy, and this has largely held. Weaponised nerve agents, most biological weapons, salted nuclear weapons (the doomsday machine from Doctor Strangelove, essentially), extremely large nuclear weapons...
Re:Great News from Saturn's Moon Enceladus in the Search for... by trimethylpurine on Sunday September 27, 2026 @07:25PM (#49871839)
Agreement? Never happened.

Sadam Hussein? IRGC? United States?

When?

It's never happened. The US itself doesn't abide by Geneva convention. Let alone other UN members.

You're living in pretense, I'm sorry to point out.

The world is run by terrorists. The only question is which terror group you want to retain power.

Personally, I like the multiculturalism that the US champions, and the Turks used to, and the Khan dynasty used to, and Persia used to. And only because it's the most likely recipe for the longest track record for peace.

Like it or not, history doesn't agree with your optimism as much as you and I wish it did.