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Re:Ask HN: Who's still keeping a DOS machine up because the ... by onion2k on Saturday September 26, 2026 @10:20AM (#49856844)
It’s the responsibility of the management to make sure the knowledge transferred to new generation.

That's just lazy thinking, and probably a sign you've never been a manager. For all the responsibility to lie with management you'd have to be leading people who enthusiastically do what they're asked to do, raise problems, document things, follow processes, and make sure everything is handed over to the next person when they leave.

That's not how people are. They'll have times when they're unmotivated, underpaid, grumpy, over-worked so they miss things, etc. That's when the organisational tech debt starts piling up, and there's nothing a manager can do to stop it except manage it as best they can even though they're under the same pressure, with the same lack of motivation and crap pay as everyone else.

It's so easy to think you can fix it just by keeping on top of it and micromanaging where it starts to show up. It doesn't work that way.

Re:Ask HN: Who's still keeping a DOS machine up because the ... by jagged-chisel on Saturday September 26, 2026 @03:02PM (#49859497)
> … underpaid … over-worked

These two (and many others) are well within management’s purview.

> … there's nothing a manager can do … [emphasis added]

Right, but Management (capitalized and plural) can. A manager should report, and management should fix - if not, it’s management’s fault.

Re:Ask HN: Who's still keeping a DOS machine up because the ... by onion2k on Sunday September 27, 2026 @03:07AM (#49864125)
The Management of a company is a group of managers. There's no real difference between the group and the collective.

The fact that you're willing to absolve an individual manager but still believe Management can fix the problems is a big part of the problem. The Management usually includes the last person in the chain who has the ultimate decision making power. If you assume that when I said 'a manager' I meant that person, it should be fairly obvious that even they don't have unlimited budget or unlimited time, and they can only try to fix problems they hear about. Within those constraints Management are still going to find fixing systemic problems hard.

It's very easy to look at something with hindsight and think the outcome should have been predicted and corrected. If you look at the real world you'll see that just isn't the case. Personally, I wish we had a lot more people applying some systems thinking approaches to at least consider the second- and third-order impacts of their decisions but I imagine that won't ever happen. It makes me sad because it's actually really interesting.