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Re:Tutoring company tells parents to save their money and 'u... by mapcars on Thursday September 24, 2026 @08:17PM (#49838567)
>Students need to understand what AI is and is not.

Do we really understand what AI is and is not? For example we all know AI can hallucinate, but how does that knowledge help us in practice? If I'm leaning something new I would have to fact check everything which would take about as much time as learning from verified sources.

Re:Tutoring company tells parents to save their money and 'u... by sandworm101 on Thursday September 24, 2026 @08:35PM (#49838726)
I just watched a youtube about cruise ships. A near-riot broke out during a movie quote quiz because the AI that made the questions confused Casablanca and Gone With The Wind. If it aint ready for quiz night, it aint ready to teach kids.
Re:Tutoring company tells parents to save their money and 'u... by 1attice on Thursday September 24, 2026 @08:57PM (#49838900)
With all due respect, this example is obsolete anecdata. I doubt the cruise ship was using Astra, for example, or Fable. Or really anything past GPT 3
Re:Tutoring company tells parents to save their money and 'u... by sethammons on Thursday September 24, 2026 @09:31PM (#49839167)
Ask each of those if they can spell seventeen, and then ask them how many e's are in the word.
Re:Tutoring company tells parents to save their money and 'u... by wild_egg on Friday September 25, 2026 @02:47AM (#49841006)
Ask a color blind person to spell "red" and "green", then ask them how many red apples are on the table.

LLMs work on tokens. They literally cannot see individual letters. Yet, unlike humans, they can instantly create a tool to solve this task for them and never be stumped by it again.

I'm so tired of this brain-dead gotcha comment.

Re:Tutoring company tells parents to save their money and 'u... by sethammons on Friday September 25, 2026 @07:48AM (#49843282)
It is important to understand how this technology works. It isn't magic. Your example is solid. Similar to the Chinese Room.

Do you think your legislators or most users understand tokens and predictions and what is going on? Do you think that those who bombed a school using it know this?

Until frontier models can account for the disparity between what they can do and what the person (or other agent) is asking, we will continue to suffer bad information used like good information.

That tokens cannot count letters like that is not a brain-dead gotcha. Ignoring how humans are using these models is lacking in critical understanding of the real world. People are literally going to die due to humans not understanding how this works (and already have). True brain-dead, and body-dead.

Re:Tutoring company tells parents to save their money and 'u... by mitxela on Friday September 25, 2026 @07:28AM (#49843069)
They're now over fitted on strawberry has 3 R's. So ask them how many R's are in srrarbrarry. There are, obviously, 3 R's in srrarbrarry too.
Re:Tutoring company tells parents to save their money and 'u... by breezybottom on Thursday September 24, 2026 @09:27PM (#49839123)
Almost no one is, so I don't get your point.
Re:Tutoring company tells parents to save their money and 'u... by Sohcahtoa82 on Friday September 25, 2026 @03:12PM (#49848674)
This is something I've found a lot of.

People formed their opinions on LLMs in late 2022/early 2023 when ChatGPT was first released and taking the world by storm and then never updated them after nearly 4 years of improvements.

Hell, just being able to search the Internet did MASSIVE things for reducing hallucinations.