> That said, I think you have to be proficient at mental gymnastics to believe that the aggressor is actually the victim.
That is a fine example of propaganda: All people, including historians who evaluate different possibilities, surely want to paint Russia as the victim!
You are literally forbidding people to think.
Re:What Happened to the Snowden Archive
by bigyabai on Monday September 21, 2026 @01:38PM
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Tragic: "No Way To Prevent This" Claims Only World Superpower Losing 10,000+ Personnel Per Month
Re:What Happened to the Snowden Archive
by pphysch on Monday September 21, 2026 @02:33PM
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According to the other side.
Re:What Happened to the Snowden Archive
by bigyabai on Monday September 21, 2026 @04:04PM
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10,000/month is a conservative estimate. The Kremlin isn't denying it.
Re:What Happened to the Snowden Archive
by throwaway85825 on Monday September 21, 2026 @04:51PM
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As long as theyre criminals or drunks it's considered a positive. In Russia the value of life is often negative.
It might still be the case that something is true AND propaganda. Good propaganda has a grain of truth. The key for identifying propaganda isn't "is a statement false?" but "is one of the sides pushing the statement, because it's benefitial for them". In this sense, "the Ukraine war was provoked by the US" would be propaganda even if it were true - which it's not.
That said, I think you have to be proficient at mental gymnastics to believe that the aggressor is actually the victim.