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Re:Weeping whales: Stillborn humpback whale grieving documented by alpineman on Sunday September 20, 2026 @05:02AM (#49773953)
Cows also grieve their young yet we keep them permanently (forcibly) impregnated and take their young away to be slaughtered every few months just so we can drink their breast milk in our coffee. I can’t take seriously people who get emotional over stories like this then eat dairy products.
Re:Weeping whales: Stillborn humpback whale grieving documented by tialaramex on Sunday September 20, 2026 @08:07AM (#49774994)
Ordinarily in Minecraft if you click a cow with a bucket it fills with milk, a simplistic model of how this works that reflects probably the level of thought most people have about where cow milk comes from.

One of the mods (Animalia maybe?) obliges you to do this properly. Find a male and a female, enclose them and make sure they're well fed so that they'll breed, wait a while for the female to give birth, steal the calf, and then you can collect her milk. I would bet far more players in games with that mod go vegan because it was a lot of hassle to make these arrangements compared to making soy milk.

Re:Weeping whales: Stillborn humpback whale grieving documented by annex-winged-cr on Sunday September 20, 2026 @07:06AM (#49774600)
I once heard someone claim that we've somehow completely "bred away" any maternal instincts from dairy cows. So it's perfectly okay to forcibly separate them from their calves.

It's crazy to hear the various bizzare ways people use to try to justify and cope with their habits.

Re:Weeping whales: Stillborn humpback whale grieving documented by Aromasin on Sunday September 20, 2026 @09:16AM (#49775557)
Man, I remember carrying a veal calf in a wheelbarrow away from it's grieving mother (who ended up distressed for days) when I was 16 doing some Summer farm work. It messed me up for weeks, and I still somehow went back to drinking dairy. Thankfully I've sworn off all animal products now, but the knowing cruelty of it I suppressed for a long time.
Re:Weeping whales: Stillborn humpback whale grieving documented by ajuc on Sunday September 20, 2026 @12:52PM (#49777547)
I've heard several people say fish don't feel pain. Makes hobby fishing seem less cruel I guess.
Re:Weeping whales: Stillborn humpback whale grieving documented by WhyIsItAlwaysHN on Sunday September 20, 2026 @05:27AM (#49774098)
Try considering this with some nuance. Many people likely do not know that cows grieve or their bubble of habits and upbringing prevents this fact from reaching them. A story that brings empathy towards any animal is a step towards less suffering for all animals.
Re:Weeping whales: Stillborn humpback whale grieving documented by DangitBobby on Sunday September 20, 2026 @10:41AM (#49776361)
Someone is aware this is necessary because they are carrying it out.
Re:Weeping whales: Stillborn humpback whale grieving documented by winter_blue on Sunday September 20, 2026 @10:48AM (#49776424)
I’m hoping that at some point we’d be able to have free range cows that are only hormonally forced to make milk. And no calves need to be born (or killed).
Re:Weeping whales: Stillborn humpback whale grieving documented by kaybe on Monday September 21, 2026 @06:53PM (#49794510)
You can keep the calf with the mother half of the time at the cost of some milk and the benefit of less vet costs for the calf, at least. Some very few places do that. They say the cows are much less stressed once they realize the calf will be back by morning after milking.