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Re:Android 17 is the first since 3.x to add new APIs without... by MiroslavPokorny on Saturday September 19, 2026 @12:50AM (#49763411)
Can anyone actually share 1 - 3 examples where a hard fork of a living os project has actually succeeded ?

If AMZN couldnt make their fire whatever it was called fork of Android really grow, what chance has the community got ?

Re:Android 17 is the first since 3.x to add new APIs without... by hex-m on Saturday September 19, 2026 @01:36AM (#49763641)
OwnCloud -> Nextcloud, OpenOffice -> LibreOffice, Elasicsearch -> OpenSearch, privacyIDEA -> eduMFA
Re:Android 17 is the first since 3.x to add new APIs without... by MiroslavPokorny on Saturday September 19, 2026 @03:45AM (#49764309)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_OpenOffice

Difficulties maintaining a sufficient number of contributors to keep the project viable have persisted for several years. In January 2015, the project reported a lack of active developers and code contributions.[49] There have been continual problems providing timely fixes to security vulnerabilities since 2015.[50][51][52][53] In September 2016, OpenOffice's project management committee chair Dennis Hamilton began a discussion of possibly discontinuing the project, after the Apache board had put them on monthly reporting due to the project's ongoing problems handling security issues.[54][55][56]

Sounds like AOO is effectively dead, so this example is a fail to my challenge.

OpenSearch & ElasticSearch both seem alive, as well as OC & NC.

Neither https://github.com/privacyidea/privacyidea or https://github.com/eduMFA/eduMFA say either is a fork of the other.

I think you failed to share 3, 2 seem to valid examples of my challenge but the other 2 are questionable.

Re:Android 17 is the first since 3.x to add new APIs without... by Kubuxu on Saturday September 19, 2026 @04:01AM (#49764399)
AOO became a thing after LibreOffice essentially won. Before that it was OpenOffice.org owned by oracle, forked into LibreOffice in 2010, with LibreOffice getting significant traction and Oracle throwing in the towel and donating OO to Apache Foundation in 2011.
Re:Android 17 is the first since 3.x to add new APIs without... by AnssiH on Saturday September 19, 2026 @06:26AM (#49765189)
LibreOffice was forked from OpenOffice.org in 2010, way before the difficulties of Apache OpenOffice (which didn't even exist back then).
Re:Android 17 is the first since 3.x to add new APIs without... by notpushkin on Saturday September 19, 2026 @10:34AM (#49766899)
> Sounds like AOO is effectively dead, so this example is a fail to my challenge.

You didn’t ask for examples where both projects are alive!

Re:Android 17 is the first since 3.x to add new APIs without... by oAlbe on Saturday September 19, 2026 @07:57PM (#49771194)
The amount of people that to this day still default to OpenOffice and have either never heard of LibreOffice or think it's the same as OpenOffice is crazy making though.
Re:Android 17 is the first since 3.x to add new APIs without... by AnssiH on Saturday September 19, 2026 @06:32AM (#49765248)
The big ones that come to mind that were not already mentioned are MySQL => MariaDB, XFree86 => X.org.
Re:Android 17 is the first since 3.x to add new APIs without... by microtonal on Saturday September 19, 2026 @08:18AM (#49765945)
386BSD -> FreeBSD

NetBSD -> OpenBSD

To some extent I would argue that Linux is a spiritual fork of Minix and Unix.

But I think it’s also worth pointing out that these were in vastly different times where a single person or a small group of people could maintain an OS. An OS or browser is vastly more complex now.

Re:Android 17 is the first since 3.x to add new APIs without... by bunderbunder on Saturday September 19, 2026 @08:52AM (#49766181)
Network effects were also nowhere near as strong as they are now.

BSD is a killer example of that point, too. Using a BSD Unix got to be pretty difficult after Linux containers became hegemonic.

Re:Android 17 is the first since 3.x to add new APIs without... by mh- on Saturday September 19, 2026 @09:59PM (#49771862)
It was a bit challenging long before that. I ran webhosting on FreeBSD in the early 2000s - remember finding a tool you needed and hoping it was in ports?
Re:Android 17 is the first since 3.x to add new APIs without... by MiroslavPokorny on Saturday September 19, 2026 @09:54PM (#49771840)
The point which i didnt not mention in my original question is that merging from the fork is a pain, which is why its just easier to jump onto and continuing development on the fork if it gains traction.
Re:Android 17 is the first since 3.x to add new APIs without... by hollerith on Saturday September 19, 2026 @07:59PM (#49771209)
Samsung has had an Android fork for a long time.

Safari started as a fork of KHTML, and Chrome started as a fork of (the open-source parts of) Safari.