Re:Big AI sets out its terms for regulatory capture
by altcognito on Monday September 14, 2026 @11:55AM
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No, that is exactly what you were getting at:
> China played the smart long game and took advantage of America's...
Zero sum games imply that if there is a winner, there has to be a loser. That one country takes advantage of another.
Re:Big AI sets out its terms for regulatory capture
by rglover on Monday September 14, 2026 @12:55PM
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That's not my framing, that's literally what happened/is happening.
Re:Big AI sets out its terms for regulatory capture
by vanderZwan on Tuesday September 15, 2026 @05:37AM
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I think they're saying America ended up positioning itself as the loser because they framed things as a zero-sum game. Which of course is a generalization, neither America nor China is a monolith, but I can certainly see some presidencies of the last decades leaning more into this attitude than others.
“If you assume everyone only has hammers, you'll end up getting screwed”, or something like that.
Re:Big AI sets out its terms for regulatory capture
by rglover on Tuesday September 15, 2026 @11:18AM
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Yes, thank you.
Re:Big AI sets out its terms for regulatory capture
by altcognito on Tuesday September 15, 2026 @09:45PM
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> I think they're saying America ended up positioning itself as the loser because they framed things as a zero-sum game.
I didn't bother responding earlier, and I'm not sure why I'm responding now because I don't think "because they framed things as a zero-sum game." explains anything, and it sounds like something that sounded like a retort but offered without any evidence means nothing.
Re:Big AI sets out its terms for regulatory capture
by vanderZwan on Wednesday September 16, 2026 @04:03AM
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Just like how not everything is a zero-sum game, not everything is a debate where one side tries to "win" where every exchange is an aggressive retort trying to disprove the other's point. I was trying to clarify what I suspected the intent was.
If even the suggestion of considering different points of view feels like an attempt to disprove your own position, then that mainly says something about how you are approaching this exchange.
I agree but that's not at all what I was getting at. Quite the opposite. The mistake America made, what made it vulnerable, was playing everything like a zero sum game. We're in the early days of that behavior coming to roost.