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Re:Congress, at Last Minute, Drops Requirement to Obtain War... by jacquesm on Tuesday December 25, 2012 @06:27PM (#4967442)
The war on terror positively thrives on fear.

Terrified people make stupid mistakes, sign away their rights with reckless abandon in the hope that it will allay their fears. No electorate is so easy to manipulate as one that is afraid.

Re:Congress, at Last Minute, Drops Requirement to Obtain War... by gnaritas on Tuesday December 25, 2012 @07:31PM (#4967632)
Of course, but that fear that enables the war is the same fear the war is meant to eliminate, the fear caused by the initial terror attack. 911 scared the hell out of people, enough to allow some dreadful laws to be passed, but out of fear people do stupid things to try and feel safe again. The TSA doesn't make us safe, but it made most feel safer, at least initially.
Re:Congress, at Last Minute, Drops Requirement to Obtain War... by jamesmcn on Tuesday December 25, 2012 @11:21PM (#4968131)
Using war to cure terror is like using cyanide to cure a headache.

Osama bin Laden would have killed more Americans by investing in Ford and GM+. And after the bailout, he would have made a profit too!

+ I'm not picking on Ford or GM here, they make fine cars. But automobiles kill far more people every year than terrorism has in the last decade.

Re:Congress, at Last Minute, Drops Requirement to Obtain War... by gnaritas on Wednesday December 26, 2012 @01:08AM (#4968366)
> But automobiles kill far more people every year than terrorism has in the last decade.

Seems you rather missed the point of the whole thread; terrorism isn't about killing.

Re:Congress, at Last Minute, Drops Requirement to Obtain War... by jamesmcn on Wednesday December 26, 2012 @01:44AM (#4968442)
No, I got the point. And Osama was quite effective at terrorism. Though I think most of the credit goes to the US government and media. I don't believe it was an inside job, rather that similar motivations created similar outcomes: radicalizing war in the middle east.

If humans were rational, terrorism wouldn't work. Driving your car to work is more dangerous than taking the subway to the world trade center, even if the WTC was demolished every year. But we are afraid of what we fear, not what will actually kill us. There are a lot of people who are eager to exploit that cognitive defect.

Re:Congress, at Last Minute, Drops Requirement to Obtain War... by ams6110 on Wednesday December 26, 2012 @11:11AM (#4969694)
Almost all politics thrives on fear. Witness the left constantly trying to tell seniors that Republicans want to take away their social security and medicare.
Re:Congress, at Last Minute, Drops Requirement to Obtain War... by lhnn on Wednesday December 26, 2012 @07:18AM (#4969011)
This should be mentioned when we have people saying, in response to gun control, "Demand a plan! It's already too late; we need to do /something/".

Doing "something", something which the security state crowd had ready in '96, is what got us the PATRIOT act and the TSA.

The strong anti-gun crowd is trying to wage a slow war against gun ownership that would result in an Australia-like confiscation of weapons and the repeal of the 2nd amendment. Don't let the "do somethings" win again.

/rare political post on HN

Re:Congress, at Last Minute, Drops Requirement to Obtain War... by slavak on Wednesday December 26, 2012 @08:36AM (#4969157)
We must do something This is something Therefore, we must do this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politician%27s_syllogism