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Re:I spent $220 on Google app ads. 60% of the installs were ... by Gustomaximus on Friday September 11, 2026 @11:01PM (#49668317)
> advertising isn't nearly as effective as advertisers let on

Most marketers should know exactly how effective their ads are by measuring to the end of the funnel. This is standard for most business and while bots are a problem, if you're judging online advertising at the front end of the funnel that's to a large part on them for a bad setup and/or optimisation.

Re:I spent $220 on Google app ads. 60% of the installs were ... by camkego on Saturday September 12, 2026 @12:52AM (#49668938)
If the marketer is an employee or a consultant, is it in their interest to show that the ad-spend they are controlling is high ROI, or low ROI.

Maybe this is a cynical take, but, if they get to the bottom of things, and show their boss/client that the ad-spend is not returning so much, it seems it would portend bad things for the marketer.

I really don't know, and it seems like a very hard problem.

Maybe this is the time for that Upton Sinclair quote: "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it,"

Re:I spent $220 on Google app ads. 60% of the installs were ... by tyre on Saturday September 12, 2026 @01:18AM (#49669079)
That's not how ad performance is measured. Your ROI is based on end conversions. You need to know if your leads are _good_, not just plentiful. A company that doesn't do this at the start will figure it out pretty quickly.
Re:I spent $220 on Google app ads. 60% of the installs were ... by camkego on Sunday September 13, 2026 @01:24AM (#49680305)
Ideally that would be the case that all ad-spend can be tracked through end conversions, and for many businesses it can be. But for much of the corporate world, you don't know where your end conversions come from. (Think Nike shoes, etc) It's estimated about that 35% to 45% of all digital ad spend goes to brand awareness, video reach, and other upper-funnel methods where direct conversion tracking isn't possible.