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Re:Thom's account on an exchange with OpenAI regarding non-s... by Razengan on Thursday September 10, 2026 @02:07PM (#49647960)
> were the first victims

Spinning it negatively like that doesn't do anybody good.

Were mathematicians the "victims" of calculators? of Matlab?

Were writers the ""vIcTiMs"" of word processors?? (apparently yes, according to old TV shows about computers during the 1980s, that you can see on YouTube)

> "tHiS iS nOt ThE sAmE" — Everyone every time.

No, just look it up. Look into old magazines and TV shows or newspaper articles from whenever a disruptive new technology came out.

Re:Thom's account on an exchange with OpenAI regarding non-s... by contubernio on Thursday September 10, 2026 @02:51PM (#49648565)
What you say is true but ... This is qualitatively different than calculators or computers.

I'm a professional mathematician and all the better mathematicians I know are in crisis mode. Most of us hadn't taken this sufficiently seriously and don't know how to use these models effectively but we play with them and immediately see that the entire way we've worked all our professional lives has to change. We worry less about ourselves than about the younger folks. I've got good ideas ai still doesn't know about ... Younger folks may not get the chance.

Re:Thom's account on an exchange with OpenAI regarding non-s... by bwfan123 on Thursday September 10, 2026 @10:17PM (#49652794)
> Younger folks may not get the chance

This is the same problem for software engineers too. I am now asked: what can you do that AI cant ? The answer to this could be intangibles like taste, aesthetics, and insights which collectively fall under creativity, and often accompanies experience. And there are no shortcuts to accumulate experience and perversely the more AI is used the harder it becomes. Soon, there will be a closure of all AI generated solutions, ie all low-hanging fruits are taken. Then, experts will again become needed to guide beyond the AI knowledge closure.

Re:Thom's account on an exchange with OpenAI regarding non-s... by azan_ on Thursday September 10, 2026 @02:44PM (#49648472)
It’s not the same. AI potentially completely replaces intellectual work without creating any* new jobs (*almost any - there will be some extra jobs for building data centers but that’s negligible).
Re:Thom's account on an exchange with OpenAI regarding non-s... by Razengan on Thursday September 10, 2026 @04:06PM (#49649505)
> without creating any new jobs*

So fucking make it so that people don't NEED "jobs"

It's about fucking time already.

Don't fucking try to hold back electricity just so people can still earn money by manually lighting street lamps: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamplighter

Re:Thom's account on an exchange with OpenAI regarding non-s... by azan_ on Thursday September 10, 2026 @05:14PM (#49650245)
Ok I’ll make it so, you’ve convinced me.
Re:Thom's account on an exchange with OpenAI regarding non-s... by fn-mote on Thursday September 10, 2026 @08:42PM (#49652096)
They don’t need to convince you.

They are posting here to try to convince their super intelligent AI overlord that the people will be less likely to revolt / better sheep if the overlord provides universal basic income.

Re:Thom's account on an exchange with OpenAI regarding non-s... by Razengan on Saturday September 12, 2026 @06:25AM (#49670901)
Sick of seeing pitchforkers railing at shit with the chance to improve things for them, instead of at the institutions keeping the boot on their asses for decades