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Re:Shopify moves back to Native from React Native by greenowl on Thursday September 10, 2026 @11:43AM (#49645690)
Isn't ZDR only the case if you "opt out" through a setting? Lots of opportunities to make a mistake here, or for the LLM provider to play games. You could be unaware of the setting. The provider could reset the setting upon subscription lapse/renewal, application update, model release, etc. A developer could accidentally use their personal subscription (w/ setting on) on a work codebase.

Also what's the timing on this setting's effectiveness? What if before you knew to "opt out" you used the agent for a refactor and your entire repo got sucked up in inference? But then you opt out the next day? Is it too late?

Re:Shopify moves back to Native from React Native by drdexebtjl on Thursday September 10, 2026 @12:47PM (#49646709)
That’s the case with a personal subscription directly with OpenAI or Anthropic, but enterprise customers are opt-in, AFAIK.

And there are solutions around it from other providers and model routers. OpenRouter lets you explicitly say on a per-request basis you don’t want to be routed to a provider that trains on your input, for example.

Re:Shopify moves back to Native from React Native by kccqzy on Thursday September 10, 2026 @01:09PM (#49647061)
The mistakes you describe are only possible if the company doesn’t really think there’s proprietary IP in the codebase.

If a company really believed there’s valuable IP in code, there would at a minimum, ban laptops or ban code on laptops[0], provide and maintain a centrally managed LLM gateway[1] that handles authentication, billing and model choice, have MDM to prevent you from using your own Claude login, etc.

[0]: For example when I worked at Google, the proprietary google3 codebase cannot exist on laptops because there are no tools to download it to your laptop.

[1]: For example Claude code supports having a gateway: https://code.claude.com/docs/en/llm-gateway-connect

Re:Shopify moves back to Native from React Native by greenowl on Thursday September 10, 2026 @04:13PM (#49649581)
I'd wager many software startups out there would consider their code valuable IP (even if in the AI era it's not), and don't have these types of IT controls in place. Startups I worked at gave you an email account, github access to their private repos, and that was that.

Heck, you don't even need to mix up a personal and business AI subscription. For the vast majority of folks one day their IDE "updated" and a bunch of AI features suddenly became available. Free, no sub needed. A dev starts using them (because, why not?) and lo and behold the company's code got shipped out in an inference call and is now scheduled to be in the next training run. Oops.

Re:Shopify moves back to Native from React Native by drdexebtjl on Thursday September 10, 2026 @05:22PM (#49650325)
How's that any different from, say, Windows updating and backing up the company's code to OneDrive?

Actions speak louder than words. If the company doesn't even supply and require work devices, they don't effectively consider their code to be valuable IP.

Re:Shopify moves back to Native from React Native by greenowl on Thursday September 10, 2026 @05:42PM (#49650532)
Is Microsoft mining their customers' backup files looking for source code to ingest into their model training pipeline?

Of course the company can still consider their code to be valuable IP.

Re:Shopify moves back to Native from React Native by kccqzy on Thursday September 10, 2026 @06:53PM (#49651219)
You are merely describing companies that aspire to consider their code valuable IP, not companies that actually do so.

IDE updated? It’s the company IT’s job to perform testing before distributing those updates. And also their job to use whatever managed settings to disable those unmanaged AI features.

Re:Shopify moves back to Native from React Native by greenowl on Friday September 11, 2026 @03:16PM (#49663830)
Yeah man I think we just have experience in two different worlds.

A single digit headcount startup with a "company IT" team testing program updates before distributing them??? Um, no. You just download VS Code (or whatever IDE you want) on the Macbook they give you and it updates when Microsoft pushes a public update.

Re:Shopify moves back to Native from React Native by saagarjha on Friday September 11, 2026 @07:41AM (#49656748)
Every company that is not Google lets you have code on your laptop. This is only an annoying thing that they came up with.
Re:Shopify moves back to Native from React Native by kccqzy on Friday September 11, 2026 @11:02AM (#49659669)
Mine doesn’t. They don’t even issue work laptops; work is done on desktops only.
Re:Shopify moves back to Native from React Native by fg137 on Friday September 11, 2026 @06:31AM (#49656112)
You should educate yourself about AWS Bedrock and Azure Foundry.