Re:Windows 8 Sales Disappoint in Shaky PC Market
by gabemart on Sunday December 23, 2012 @09:09PM
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I find it hard to imagine someone in the hacker news crowd rating 8 over 7 on developer hardware. From my limited experience, the only major improvement I noticed was the improved task manager (which is really nifty). What other substantial improvements over 7 do you think Win8 provides?
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Re:Windows 8 Sales Disappoint in Shaky PC Market
by isaacwaller on Sunday December 23, 2012 @09:21PM
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(I am not the original poster)
* improved file copy dialog, including pausing
* much faster boot
* improved task manager (as you said)
* better multi-monitor support (I have 2 monitors)
It's not much but was worth the $30 upgrade. I don't mind the new start screen but I understand that is subjective.
Re:Windows 8 Sales Disappoint in Shaky PC Market
by MattDL on Sunday December 23, 2012 @10:18PM
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Isn't the faster booting thing just exactly the same as only using hibernate on Windows 7?
Granted I haven't looked into it fully but I doubt the actual cold boot speeds vary wildly between the two.
Re:Windows 8 Sales Disappoint in Shaky PC Market
by magic_haze on Monday December 24, 2012 @04:30AM
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The hibernate is only for ring 0: user space still gets wiped out.
Re:Windows 8 Sales Disappoint in Shaky PC Market
by nwh on Sunday December 23, 2012 @11:07PM
(#4961814)
That's correct.
Re:Windows 8 Sales Disappoint in Shaky PC Market
by suby on Sunday December 23, 2012 @09:33PM
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I think Win8 is a downgrade in almost every aspect, but it does boot faster. Granted, I think that it's doing something akin to hibernating in Windows 7 and not actually shutting down.
Re:Windows 8 Sales Disappoint in Shaky PC Market
by CamperBob2 on Sunday December 23, 2012 @09:44PM
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I wonder if people are comparing the boot time of year-old Windows 7 installations to brand new Windows 8 installations.
I know my SSD-based Windows 7 system could boot to the desktop in less than 10 seconds when it was new, but now that it's over a year old with dozens of additional installed programs and drivers, I'm lucky to see the desktop in less than 30 seconds.
Re:Windows 8 Sales Disappoint in Shaky PC Market
by MetaCosm on Monday December 24, 2012 @01:44AM
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As a developer, I care about some of the under the hood changes, new features and improvements:
- lighter memory usage
- better power management
- address space randomization (forcible)
- full hardware (direct-x) rendered UI
- storage spaces
- hyper-v
- incremental file histories
- mandatory DEP
- system refresh
Of course, at the UI level, there are various changes that are a mix of good and bad IMHO, but overall, I would say more parts of the UI suck a little less than before.