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Re:There's a new "Google Jail" for independent wikis by skhameneh on Tuesday September 08, 2026 @02:17AM (#49606164)
For a while, Fandom was having annoying ads and content that would get past my ad blocker. But a recent update has caused them to block users with ad blockers.

I've been looking for explicit alternatives to Fandom for some content and it's annoyingly sparse.

Just the other day I saw some meme about how if we saw as many ads taking over sites like we do now, that was a sure sign of having your machine getting infected with a virus.

Generally I've found a good portion of websites that block users with ad blockers tend to be the worst offenders with aggressive ads...

Re:There's a new "Google Jail" for independent wikis by nicce on Tuesday September 08, 2026 @04:19AM (#49607236)
> Just the other day I saw some meme about how if we saw as many ads taking over sites like we do now, that was a sure sign of having your machine getting infected with a virus.

That used to be the reality around decade ago for those who don’t know. Some applications changed the default front page of the browser, hijacked other websites to inject popups and so on

Re:There's a new "Google Jail" for independent wikis by AlAjem on Tuesday September 08, 2026 @05:09AM (#49607679)
>around decade ago

Two decades now actually. By 2016 we were already seeing the mass transition to browsing on phones instead of PCs, Windows 10 was already out and for reasons I am not quite sure of the old homepage and toolbar hijackers were on the decline and adblockers were on the rise although I am sure there were still people using malware ridden Internet Explorers for years after.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_hijacking

Re:There's a new "Google Jail" for independent wikis by nicce on Tuesday September 08, 2026 @05:23AM (#49607812)
Ouch, already 11 years since the Windows 10 release.
Re:There's a new "Google Jail" for independent wikis by mitxela on Tuesday September 08, 2026 @02:29PM (#49614604)
It really was the last Windows anyone with a brain would ever care about.
Re:There's a new "Google Jail" for independent wikis by kotaKat on Tuesday September 08, 2026 @04:41AM (#49607433)
> But a recent update has caused them to block users with ad blockers.

I'm noticing that Ad-Shield is becoming a continual fight these days with pageloads that complete then they fly in with a "ha ha here's a fake error report turn off your adblocker aye?".

Every time their live support chat is open (why would the anti-adblock firm even offer one), I send them Goatse.

Re:There's a new "Google Jail" for independent wikis by dspillett on Tuesday September 08, 2026 @05:56AM (#49608090)
> Every time their live support chat is open […], I send them Goatse.

Unfortunately there is little chance that a human is anywhere near the other end of that chat these days, so your evil is somewhat wasted.

> (why would the anti-adblock firm even offer one)

They want to appear to care. And appear to be a company of real people, who you might like if you met in real life, who will be out of pocket if you don't look at their ads.

Re:There's a new "Google Jail" for independent wikis by IanCal on Tuesday September 08, 2026 @06:56AM (#49608581)
If there is a person on the other end it’s not someone who has any link to the company, they’ll be an outsourced service, so all you’d be doing is sending graphic porn to a poorly paid worker.

It’s like screaming at a cashier because the supermarket head office made annoying changes to the company.

Re:There's a new "Google Jail" for independent wikis by mitxela on Tuesday September 08, 2026 @10:57AM (#49611270)
The cashier still gets paid mind you, if he can put up with it it's the company who is inconvenienced by the slower queue.
Re:There's a new "Google Jail" for independent wikis by dspillett on Tuesday September 08, 2026 @01:04PM (#49613123)
I know a fair few people who work in shops, hospitality, and similar. Being a dick to your server is still being a dick to your server, even if you dress it up as doing it to get at their employer.

Occasionally your server deserves a bit of dickish behaviour because of their attitude, but this is relatively rather rare in my experience.

Re:There's a new "Google Jail" for independent wikis by IanCal on Wednesday September 09, 2026 @05:07AM (#49623510)
The company has an almost immeasurably small impact on their profits, and will never be measured anyway.

The cashier is a real human doing a job to put food on the table and has done nothing to deserve it, and may well have been far more hurt by the head office than you.

Re:There's a new "Google Jail" for independent wikis by dspillett on Tuesday September 08, 2026 @06:03AM (#49608152)
> Generally I've found a good portion of websites that block users with ad blockers tend to be the worst offenders with aggressive ads...

It is a common cycle: as they get more aggressive with trying to make the ad based business model work, more and more people are pushed to installing blockers. At this point there is a choice: find a less crappy business model (not an easy task, many have failed) or double down and get more iffy with the adverts and who you partner with to serve them. Eventually it gets to a point where such a high proportion or the viewers are using blockers and the next step in ads/stalking is a step too far even for them, and then the blocker blocking attempts start.

Re:There's a new "Google Jail" for independent wikis by nkrisc on Tuesday September 08, 2026 @06:45AM (#49608490)
Given that these ad networks have actually served real malware on normally trustworthy sites (even nytimes was affected) the meme is essentially true even today.

Ad blockers are malware protection.

Re:There's a new "Google Jail" for independent wikis by latexr on Tuesday September 08, 2026 @07:20AM (#49608755)
Re:There's a new "Google Jail" for independent wikis by Suzuran on Tuesday September 08, 2026 @08:57AM (#49609726)
My mother was looking for cheat codes for some video game she was playing and she ended up on Fandom. I had installed uBlock Origin for her because she had a history of being victimized by malware. Fandom detected it and served her the "BLOCKING ADS IS STEALING FROM YOUR FELLOW FANS!" scare stuff, with instructions for removing uBO. She followed the instructions because she thought that's what she needed to do to access the information, and Fandom immediately served her ransomware.
Re:There's a new "Google Jail" for independent wikis by mitxela on Tuesday September 08, 2026 @10:55AM (#49611253)
Which content? Maybe it's time for a Nitter for Fandom.
Re:There's a new "Google Jail" for independent wikis by orbital-decay on Tuesday September 08, 2026 @02:39PM (#49614750)
Not even a maybe... https://breezewiki.com/