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Re:LG smart TVs caught logging audio with screen off and sno... by figglestar on Monday September 07, 2026 @01:24PM (#49600680)
Why is this more far fetched than LG smart TVs recording audio while pretending to be off and caching the results waiting for an opportunity to exfiltrate the precious data? We're in a "if they can they will" world with this stuff.

Comcast sets up a secondary wifi network on their routers in your home that they use as the backhaul for smartphones. Why wouldn't they make a deal with LG or whoever to use that data? We've already established they'll do about a half-a-Stuxnet to get at this data, you're telling me they won't do a couple bulk deals with common ISPs?

Re:LG smart TVs caught logging audio with screen off and sno... by jrmg on Monday September 07, 2026 @02:51PM (#49601637)
Okay, even if you don’t agree with me that it’s far fetched, claims of ‘X is doing Y’ usually require some evidence that X is doing Y to be considered credible.
Re:LG smart TVs caught logging audio with screen off and sno... by 8fingerlouie on Monday September 07, 2026 @05:25PM (#49603152)
Why go through all that trouble of spoofing MAC addresses or assuming it will always be able to connect to an open WiFi network.

5G connectivity is cheap. You can put a 5G modem in pretty much any device for $10 or less, and pay roughly $2/year in subscription fees. My local water utility with ~900 subscribers pays $2/year for 5G connectivity for water meters, and I have no doubt you can get it much cheaper at scale.

They don't even have to tell you about the 5G modem. It could exclusively be used for exfiltrating data about your viewing habits. It's virtually undetectable and more or less impossible to block. The TV could behave nice on the Wifi, you can block all the DNS servers you like, it would still be able to phone home.

Re:LG smart TVs caught logging audio with screen off and sno... by mrheosuper on Monday September 07, 2026 @10:32PM (#49605093)
because using open wifi is infinity cheaper.

You are asking for $20 increase in BOM, which means they somehow has to extract $20 from your private data, which is hard.

Re:LG smart TVs caught logging audio with screen off and sno... by 8fingerlouie on Tuesday September 08, 2026 @02:30AM (#49606272)
Or simply increase the selling price by $20, would you even notice ?

And if they're not expecting to make $20 over 10 years selling your data, it hardly seems worth risking your reputation over.

Re:LG smart TVs caught logging audio with screen off and sno... by mrheosuper on Tuesday September 08, 2026 @04:15AM (#49607198)
It’s just the BOM price. When your product has Cellular module, there is set of certification that is painful to pass. It’s better to use included wifi module since it’s already there and certified