Re:LG smart TVs caught logging audio with screen off and sno...
by washelterskelte on Monday September 07, 2026 @02:20PM
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The law matters very little when enforcing it in court often means a multiyear lawsuit against an opponent which employs an army of attorneys, has effectively unlimited amounts of money, will likely cost you ruinious sums of money, and for an outcome that's far from guaranteed.
Re:LG smart TVs caught logging audio with screen off and sno...
by nobody9999 on Monday September 07, 2026 @03:08PM
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>The law matters very little when enforcing it in court often means a multiyear lawsuit against an opponent which employs an army of attorneys, has effectively unlimited amounts of money, will likely cost you ruinious sums of money, and for an outcome that's far from guaranteed.
Or when you can't even enforce anything in court as you've already given up your right to spend all your money suing, as binding arbitration is the required and only mechanism to "resolve disputes." To make it extra fair, the corporation pays the arbitration firm for their "objective" decisions and not you.
What could go wrong?
Re:LG smart TVs caught logging audio with screen off and sno...
by mitxela on Monday September 07, 2026 @07:22PM
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Has it actually happened that someone went to court and the court told them no, you have to do binding arbitration? Or is it just something they put in the contract to scare you? Has anyone argued they didn't actually agree to what the country thinks they agreed to?
In the Gamer's Nexus video, he gets drunk before accepting the terms so that it isn't legal consent. A drunk person can't enter a contract.
Re:LG smart TVs caught logging audio with screen off and sno...
by nobody9999 on Tuesday September 08, 2026 @01:38AM
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>Has it actually happened that someone went to court and the court told them no, you have to do binding arbitration? Or is it just something they put in the contract to scare you? Has anyone argued they didn't actually agree to what the country thinks they agreed to? You could start by just saying no, you didn't agree to that, and the company will have to prove you did.
Yes[0]. For over 100 years.
Next question?
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbitration_case_law_in_the_Un...
Re:LG smart TVs caught logging audio with screen off and sno...
by mitxela on Monday September 07, 2026 @07:21PM
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You can do that too. You can show up, represent yourself and pay a few hundred dollar court fee, while the big company has to waste hundreds of thousands of dollars to defend themselves from you. You'll probably lose the case if you don't have a lawyer, but in a place like the US, you don't have to pay the other side's legal fees unless the case is frivolous (which it won't be).
Re:LG smart TVs caught logging audio with screen off and sno...
by Gigachad on Monday September 07, 2026 @09:22PM
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The US is not small government at all. It’s one of the largest governments in the world. It just exists almost exclusively to serve billionaires.
It’s “small government” when it comes to protecting your individual rights, and full flock powered ai surveillance state when someone has an abortion.
I'm pretty sure that's true almost everywhere. Law beats contract. The real question is how strong the laws are. In the US not so much because of small government and stuff, especially in red states.