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Re:Google Designing 'X Phone' to Rival Apple, Samsung by wvenable on Friday December 21, 2012 @04:48PM (#4954685)
> $40 profit on a (say) $700 computer.

If you're willing to pay $740 instead of $700 then you might get that -- but most people aren't. It's not that only one company realizes it, it's that one particular company also charges you a lot more.

Re:Google Designing 'X Phone' to Rival Apple, Samsung by CountSessine on Friday December 21, 2012 @07:36PM (#4955287)
Who's making that $740 PC without crapware right now? I know I can buy a Mac and have a usable machine out of the box, but who is doing this in the Windows PC world?
Re:Google Designing 'X Phone' to Rival Apple, Samsung by awa on Friday December 21, 2012 @08:34PM (#4955414)
You can buy any pc from store.microsoft.com or the physical microsoft store and that would come with no crap/bloatware
Re:Google Designing 'X Phone' to Rival Apple, Samsung by beagle3 on Friday December 21, 2012 @08:57PM (#4955470)
Story time:

Two years ago, I bought a Lenovo IdeaPad with the intention of running Linux. I bought it from the Microsoft Store website, because it was $200 cheaper than buying it from Lenovo (even with discount codes from dealnews.com)

So, as I was checking out, the store asks me if I would like to pay $80 more for "Microsoft Signature" setup. Given that I was going to run Linux, I was already upset at the implicit Windows tax, and declined without even checking what "Microsoft Signature" was. Especially since the whole thing was $650, so $80 is almost a 15% increase.

Three days later, I get the thing, and the box says "with Microsoft Signature". I first looked to see that they did not charge me for it. And then, just before calling to shout at them for installing crapware I didn't ask for, I checked what "Microsoft Signature" really means. Lo and behold, it means "Lack of manufacturer crapware".

Microsoft was offering to charge me $80 more so that I would only get Microsoft software out of the box.

(The Intel Inside and Win7 stickers were still there, however)

Re:Google Designing 'X Phone' to Rival Apple, Samsung by vibrunazo on Friday December 21, 2012 @11:24PM (#4955764)
Neither are available in most countries.
Re:Google Designing 'X Phone' to Rival Apple, Samsung by alphamud5 on Saturday December 22, 2012 @12:43AM (#4955883)
Vizio makes bloatware free laptops: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np3N10Awd64