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Re:Canada suspends trade negotiations with USA and match tar... by luckyjajj on Saturday August 22, 2026 @08:57AM (#49399279)
Ironically Canada’s trade deficit with the USA is largely due to our oil exports.

Remove that the trade is fairly balanced.

Re:Canada suspends trade negotiations with USA and match tar... by carefulfungi on Saturday August 22, 2026 @11:08AM (#49400542)
Why is this ironic? I see this point a lot but don’t understand the underlying reasoning for why it is a meaningful rebuttal?

It’s insane that the US administration (said as an American) doesn’t continue to treasure a values-aligned, peaceful, stable, independent neighbor along a massive unprotected border.

But I don’t understand this energy carve-out argument.

Re:Canada suspends trade negotiations with USA and match tar... by luckyjajj on Saturday August 22, 2026 @12:03PM (#49401054)
Expectation is that Canada should have a balanced trade with the USA. The reality is that Canada will always have a trade deficit because of oil exports to the USA, especially now when the USA needs it the most.

That is the ironic part.

Re:Canada suspends trade negotiations with USA and match tar... by hylaride on Saturday August 22, 2026 @01:26PM (#49401763)
There’s not a lot of irony in trade politics, but more ignorance. It’s perfectly fine to have a trade deficit with individual countries. The layman’s example is that most of us have a trade surplus with our employers, and deficits with retail outlets. It all balances out.

The US trade deficit is mostly balanced out by service (often not counted) and investment flows. The US could theoretically end most of its trade deficits if it balanced its budget, thus reducing demand for treasuries. However, that would come with other pitfalls. It would either entail tax increases, spending cuts, or both at the government level and it would then bleed into the standard of living of most Americans as foreign investment slowed down.

It doesn’t surprise me at all to see yields go up as foreigners invest less into the US as they get dinged sending goods here. So maybe that’s ironic…

Re:Canada suspends trade negotiations with USA and match tar... by pnt12 on Sunday August 23, 2026 @07:22AM (#49407913)
Exactly. If I buy a new jacket from a store and it's durable, fashionable and warm, I'm not complaining - I exchangedml my money for a valuable product!

Macroeconomics are a different beast but I think it still holds (and not that Trump knows a thing about them). A country with a productive economy may buy some valuable products from other countries. It becomes a problem if it's buying everything and not selling anything.

Re:Canada suspends trade negotiations with USA and match tar... by joshlemer on Saturday August 22, 2026 @11:38AM (#49400841)
True. And if you’re going to carve out oil sold to the us, shouldn’t you be carving out resources sold to Canada? Seems like a lopsided comparison
Re:Canada suspends trade negotiations with USA and match tar... by pjc50 on Sunday August 23, 2026 @03:32AM (#49406767)
MAGA meant the end of values alignment, because it implies subjugation of non Americans. Yes, this includes Canadians even though they're white.