Grok 4.6 - Hackdot

Re:Grok 4.6 by tavavex on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @01:28PM (#49275888)

Can you name a "Marxist-Leninist AI" that's made by a real AI lab (i.e. no finetunes of open models made by someone on the internet)? I'm just trying to understand what the other side's equivalent of MechaHitler is here.

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Re:Grok 4.6 by throwawaypath on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @02:36PM (#49276766)

Can you name a "Nazi AI" that's made by a real AI lab (i.e. no finetunes of open models made by someone on the internet)? I'm just trying to understand what the other side's equivalent of MechaStalin is here.

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Re:Grok 4.6 by tavavex on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @02:45PM (#49276862)

Can I remind you that the MechaHitler episode was a real thing? If an LLM being lobotomized to the point of supporting Hitler out of nowhere wasn't Nazist in your opinion, then nothing is.

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Re:Grok 4.6 by throwawaypath on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @02:50PM (#49276917)

Can I remind you that the Tay episode was a real thing? If an LLM being lobotomized to the point of supporting Hitler out of nowhere is Nazist in your opinion, then everything is.

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Re:Grok 4.6 by tavavex on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @02:58PM (#49277020)

Tay is not an LLM and was trained directly by its user base. Grok is trained by xAI that obviously wanted to turn it into a far-right talking point reciter but went just a little too far.

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Re:Grok 4.6 by throwawaypath on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @03:14PM (#49277248)

>Tay is not an LLM

Moving goalposts now. We're talking about AI chatbots, which Tay clearly was.

>Grok is trained by xAI that obviously wanted to turn it into a far-right talking point reciter but went just a little too far.

Yet here are the others doing the same thing: https://cybernews.com/ai-news/germany-rage-bait-ai/

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Re:Grok 4.6 by tavavex on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @03:25PM (#49277380)

> Moving goalposts now.

What? I started the conversation, I set its boundaries. You're the one who's now trying to redefine it. I challenged the parent to show me a Marxist-Leninist AI, trained by an AI lab in a way that's equivalent to what xAI did.

I don't think you even have a point. The AfD doing the same thing doesn't say anything, and I never said there can only be one pro-Nazi AI in the world. I just dismissed Tay out of hand because 4chan users spamming a primitive chatbot with neonazi shit has very little relevance to the conversation about AI labs trying to influence their products to support extreme ideologies.

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Re:Grok 4.6 by slater on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @01:29PM (#49275915)

It's just their latest "everything i dislike is woke" thing, with a new (old) twist.

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Re:Grok 4.6 by ben_w on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @02:10PM (#49276453)

In fairness, Marxism–Leninism is the official ideology of the actual Chinese Communist Party.

I leave it as an exercise for the reader if they're just saying that.

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Re:Grok 4.6 by greenregiment on Thursday August 13, 2026 @03:12PM (#49290600)

Slater you are a miserable loser with 0 life accomplishments

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