> 1) venue is in meatspace, 2) age can be eyeballed, 3) they don't routinely hoard data, 4) they don't routinely leak hoarded data, 5) they aren't monopoly with billions of users routinely extorted for PII, 6) they don't routinely leak all that hoarded data, 7) they don't have bots, 8) they aren't connected to PRISM for routine surveillance, 9) they don't routinely leak all the hoarded data, 10) they don't sell hoarded data on black market, 11) they don't sell hoarded data to thousands of business partners, 12) they don't have thousands business partners that routinely hoard, leak and resell data

So your argument is that ID checks are necessary simply because they are possible, and not a privacy invasion?

They are possible, not necessary.

> They are possible, not nevessary.

The question was why they are necessary.

The question was why they exist.

Allow me to quote the question in question:

> So why are ID checks necessary

Why are you gaslighting HN?

That's not a start of the discussion, so it doesn't set the topic, but I'm not against the idea that you tried to derail it.