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Re:Humanising LLM Outputs Is Dumb by GMoromisato on Monday August 10, 2026 @08:03PM (#49251559)
Agreed. I don't even know if you, or anyone else, feels joy. Maybe I'm the only person in the world with qualia. I certainly can't prove otherwise.

But with what I know of people and what I know of matrix multiplication, I have a strong suspicion.

Re:Humanising LLM Outputs Is Dumb by red75prime on Tuesday August 11, 2026 @03:36AM (#49254616)
I wasn't going solely for "we don't know and we can't know." There are other relevant observations.

A matmul (or a fixed finite sequence of matmuls) is not Turing-complete. An LLM that produces answer in the number of steps that is proportional to the length of the answer is not Turing-complete. An LLM with CoT that produces answer after a number of steps, which is determined by the LLM itself, is Turing-complete.

So, we do have a qualitative step between a matmul and modern LLMs. Of course, it doesn't guaranty having feelings, but it doesn't allow to simply dismiss the notion due to sheer computational inadequacy.

Re:Humanising LLM Outputs Is Dumb by adlpz on Tuesday August 11, 2026 @04:57AM (#49255150)
Thanks for this comment. It's an angle worth remembering.

A machine is not turing complete, but by running it recursively on its own output, turing completeness emerges.

Who knows at what stage of intricacy consciousness emerges?

Arguably, either it does at some point, or it never does and we requiere the supernatural soul.

So, if it does, we can't disregard the possibility that we've reached it already.

Re:Humanising LLM Outputs Is Dumb by owebmaster on Tuesday August 11, 2026 @10:36PM (#49267223)
Right. Is it conscious when it is generating the response? And it's consciousness resets on every prompt?
Re:Humanising LLM Outputs Is Dumb by red75prime on Wednesday August 12, 2026 @02:13AM (#49268433)
Its state is fully defined by its context window. So, yes, if the context is reset, then its state is reset too.