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Re:DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731 by edot on Saturday August 08, 2026 @11:13AM (#49222609)
Subsidy doesn't matter once the weights are released. You're conflating subsidized training and research with subsidized inference. DeepSeek's (allegedly government-) subsidized inference is coming to an end soon per their docs, but that's fine because the weights are open. You can run this on-prem with very modest hardware. And you can fine-tune it to your business with your data.
Re:DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731 by budsniffer952 on Saturday August 08, 2026 @11:18AM (#49222658)
Then why are the major American labs in "deep trouble"? They can also continue to be subsidized and release the weights if they want to, if that's what you think it takes for survival. Seems like a low bar.

The point is it takes money to keep developing models. Everyone is playing by the same rules. At this point, the US labs are trying to build businesses. I'm not really sure what the Chinese labs goals are. But I do know they aren't doing charity work.

Re:DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731 by irpap on Sunday August 09, 2026 @12:56PM (#49233160)
They are in trouble because they offer something 5% better for 2000% the price.