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Re:Most tech revolutions made work worse for employees by anonymars on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @08:47PM (#49177258)
FRED shows Federal outlays as a percent of GDP broadly leveling off and declining. 2008 GFC and COVID being transient exceptions

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FYONGDA188S

Meanwhile here's employee compensation* over GDP (both seasonally adjusted)

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1XO2h

Any chance you can share the sources for your assertions?

* includes benefits as per https://www.bea.gov/resources/methodologies/nipa-handbook/pd...

Re:Most tech revolutions made work worse for employees by s1artibartfast on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @10:30PM (#49177897)
Comp over GDP is slightly down, but is still increasing overall, even when adjusted for inflation. See my sibling post.
Re:Most tech revolutions made work worse for employees by anonymars on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @08:17AM (#49181786)
Not since the seventies which was the assertion in question
Re:Most tech revolutions made work worse for employees by s1artibartfast on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @01:05PM (#49185685)
And I'm saying it is massively up since the 1970s, and provided FRED links.
Re:Most tech revolutions made work worse for employees by anonymars on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @02:34PM (#49187014)
I don't know what measure you're looking at, but here again is literally "Comp over GDP", now trimmed from 1970

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1XOcj

This is obviously some strange usage of the word 'up' that I wasn't previously aware of

Re:Most tech revolutions made work worse for employees by s1artibartfast on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @03:46PM (#49187973)
> Comp over GDP is slightly down, but is still increasing overall...

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LEU0252881600A

The original parent claim was:

> The US Department of Labor measures wages, and adjusted for inflation the hourly wage is below what it was in 1973. It is even lower if you are only counting non-management roles then and now. Wages have not gotten better over the past half century they have gotten worse.

This is a flat out lie. Comp/GDP is a side note that does not negate the fact that inflation adjusted wages are up.

Re:Most tech revolutions made work worse for employees by anonymars on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @05:26PM (#49189257)
> Comp over GDP is slightly down, but is still increasing overall...

> https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LEU0252881600A

That graph does not represent Comp over GDP so it does not show it "is still increasing overall"

> The original parent claim was:...

Maybe so, but my post is a direct response to

> ...the increasing share of the economy consumed by the government...

> [the hourly wage] is a misleading statistic. The actual statistic is "total employee compensation"

Re:Most tech revolutions made work worse for employees by s1artibartfast on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @07:27PM (#49190449)
So you agree that real salaries and compensation are not down since 1970? That is my main point.
Re:Most tech revolutions made work worse for employees by anonymars on Thursday August 06, 2026 @09:27PM (#49204856)
Sure, I never said otherwise
Re:Most tech revolutions made work worse for employees by WalterBright on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @09:29PM (#49177524)
Just google total compensation vs salary.
Re:Most tech revolutions made work worse for employees by mancerayder on Tuesday August 04, 2026 @10:25PM (#49177871)
The part of compensation includes healthcare, because we have no choice, it's a lock in - there's no marketplace to choose your healthcare, unless you go ACA which is a bad idea in many states - and as a lock-in the out of pocket costs have skyrocketed. To borrow your wording, google 'out of pocket healthcare costs annual trends.'

So that compensation covers less.

Re:Most tech revolutions made work worse for employees by anonymars on Wednesday August 05, 2026 @08:16AM (#49181769)
As I specifically mentioned the compensation chart includes benefits (including healthcare)