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Re:Tailscale didn't stop the Hugging Face intrusion by traceroute66 on Friday July 31, 2026 @05:01PM (#49128476)
But why should insecure argument handling bugs (as per your recent SSH bulletin) be found after release ?

Those are an ancient class of bugs that should be picked up by any competent security review.

Re:Tailscale didn't stop the Hugging Face intrusion by apenwarr on Friday July 31, 2026 @05:05PM (#49128512)
Is your theory that "any competent security review" will find every security hole in a product? Because that sure would be great if it were true. Unfortunately it does not match my experience.
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Re:Tailscale didn't stop the Hugging Face intrusion by john_strinlai on Friday July 31, 2026 @06:01PM (#49129043)
i think its probably okay to drop it when you are this far deep into a conversation and the affiliation has already been stated multiple times in the existing comment chain.
Re:Tailscale didn't stop the Hugging Face intrusion by tonyneel923 on Friday July 31, 2026 @06:16PM (#49129155)
Try to be civil
Re:Tailscale didn't stop the Hugging Face intrusion by traceroute66 on Friday July 31, 2026 @05:18PM (#49128638)
Every security hole ? No, of course not.

But things like insecure argument handling are low-hanging fruit for security auditors.

Insecure argument handling is not like the more advanced subtle vulnerabilities that we are seeing in some LLM-assisted reports these days. Insecure argument handling is 1990's security.

The fundamental problem remains that Tailscale has too many new "features" being added to it the whole time. New features means a whole bunch new code. Which increases bloat and exponentially increases the attack surface.

It would be really nice if you could stop shoehorning in every new feature you can think of. Remove some of the existing ones that don't really need to be there. And get your codebase back to a more focused state, get back to your roots as a VPN product.

Stop trying to be all things to all men, as the old saying goes.

Re:Tailscale didn't stop the Hugging Face intrusion by TheTaytay on Friday July 31, 2026 @06:00PM (#49129035)
It appears that you have a major bone to pick with Tailscale and direct replies to your concerns do not seem to matter. They have a good security track record and are extremely widely deployed. I don’t see the evidence for your assertions that it is bloated and insecure.
Re:Tailscale didn't stop the Hugging Face intrusion by raggi on Friday July 31, 2026 @06:45PM (#49129390)
fwiw, we have been working on increasing modularity options in the client and a substantial volume of features can now be built out of the clients, see https://github.com/tailscale/tailscale/tree/main/feature for details.

If you are motivated to build a much less featureful client, it is easier now than it has ever been, and this work is ongoing.

Re:Tailscale didn't stop the Hugging Face intrusion by ozozozd on Saturday August 01, 2026 @02:24AM (#49131646)
That was a subtle strawman.

The post you replied you clearly asked why insecure argument handling should be discovered after release. You widened that to mean “every security hole must be discovered prior to release” which made it a much easier argument to attack.

The point stands that the insecure argument handling could’ve been discovered by a security audit even when every security hole may not have been found.