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Re:The Quiet Wikideath of BBS History by Gormo on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @01:17PM (#4911599)
So actual collaboration to create content should take place outside of the context of the canonical wiki, and the wiki itself should only be used for quasi-final drafts? How is that consistent with the nature of a wiki?

What, exactly, is the problem with having work-in-progress articles present in the main wiki? What argument is there for delitionism other than some obsessive-compulsive desire to hold the wiki to some arbitrary standard of orderliness?

Re:The Quiet Wikideath of BBS History by Jtsummers on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @01:22PM (#4911628)
I agree with you, my point is merely if the deletionist types are so fast that it's actually a problem for new content (that the Wikimedia Foundation has made special notice of it), then they need to resolve it. Either ensure new pages receive a grace period, or come up with a clearly marked draft area. The grace period is my preferred solution, 8 minutes is not nearly enough to determine that a particular article should be a one paragraph blurb and not an honest to god entry.
Re:The Quiet Wikideath of BBS History by Gormo on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @03:08PM (#4912152)
Apologies; I'd thought you were saying that userspace was the appropriate setting for in-progress articles, and that this simply needed to gain widespread knowledge.

But I think the "grace period" idea scarcely scratches the surface. Is it better if the article is given time to mature before it's deleted entirely by people dogmatically adhering to some arbitrary criterion of notability?

If Wikipedia is to remain a useful resource and to realize its unique potential, deletionism neesd to be vigorously suppressed. If the current Wikipedia culture is too far gone, then perhaps it needs to be forked and maintained in a culture that regards the fact that enough collaborative effort was made to produce a coherent article as itself sufficient evidence of "notability".