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Re:Here’s why other countries beat the U.S. in reading and math by nfg on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @12:41PM (#4911382)
> In previous years these results have been driven primarily by African Americans and Hispanics (groups which don't exist to any significant degree in Europe or Asia)

There aren't many Hispanics in Europe...?

Re:Here’s why other countries beat the U.S. in reading and math by theorique on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @02:50PM (#4912053)
Spanish speaking whites in Spain aren't "Hispanic" in the American sense (ethnically indian or mestizo from Central and South American regions that were colonized by Spain).
Re:Here’s why other countries beat the U.S. in reading and math by raleec on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @01:05PM (#4911530)
Oddly enough, there aren't that many (statistically significant) African Americans anywhere outside of America either... :)
Re:Here’s why other countries beat the U.S. in reading and math by yummyfajitas on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @02:17PM (#4911905)
Yes, I should have more carefully stated that the correct category for comparison would be non-immigrant Europeans of African descent. Which is a very small fraction of the population.
Re:Here’s why other countries beat the U.S. in reading and math by Nursie on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @01:01PM (#4911504)
Errr.... no?

I've never heard it used to refer to someone from actually from Spain.

Re:Here’s why other countries beat the U.S. in reading and math by pflats on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @02:07PM (#4911858)
Hispanic refers to Hispania, the Roman name for the Iberian Peninsula.

Thus, Spain and Portugal are the two original Hispanic cultures. Any culture that has Hispanic roots (i.e. most countries south of the US) is also Hispanic.

Anecdotally, a friend of mine was a first generation Spanish immigrant, and won a college scholarship aimed at Hispanic immigrants.

Re:Here’s why other countries beat the U.S. in reading and math by raleec on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @02:28PM (#4911957)
That's the point. Americans don't usually call Spaniards and Portuguese "Hispanic" any more then they call a Blond haired, blue eyed person born in America, but who's parents were born in South Africa "African American", which is to say rarely and usually in a comedic or anecdotal manner.

When he's referring to "Hispanics and African Americans" he is trying to refer to specific "racial" (insomuch as the concept exists) groups.

Re:Here’s why other countries beat the U.S. in reading and math by pflats on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @03:05PM (#4912138)
Yes, and nfg and I are trying to point out the downsides of using the term "Hispanic" when you mean "Latin American". The terms aren't interchangeable, even though people might try to treat them as such.

It might be an academic distinction to you, but it isn't to everybody. On the flip side of your example, while teaching in an inner city, I broke up a fight that started because a kid called a Haitian "African American".

Re:Here’s why other countries beat the U.S. in reading and math by raleec on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @05:22PM (#4912790)
You and I are agreeing while we explain this state of affairs to nfg, which is why I've been upvoting you.

It's far from an academic distinction to me, and that fight could have just as easily occurred if an African American had been called a Haitian, or any number of similar errors...