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Re:How is the Bun Rewrite in Rust going? by TheRealPomax on Monday July 27, 2026 @10:46AM (#49070459)
A postmortem is for reflecting on something that went so wrong you had to kill it, and you want to objectively describe what led to that, and what lessons can be learnt from the failure.

A retrospective is just the reflecting part, without implying you believe it is going to fail and you're looking for some schadenfreude ;)

Re:How is the Bun Rewrite in Rust going? by interroboink on Monday July 27, 2026 @10:59AM (#49070651)
This might be terminology that's used differently in different places. For instance, in video games it is extremely common to use "postmortem" to mean "post-shipping."

Example: https://blog.codinghorror.com/game-development-postmortems/ Note the dual emphasis on both "what went right" and "what went wrong," not just one or the other.

Re:How is the Bun Rewrite in Rust going? by brabel on Monday July 27, 2026 @01:11PM (#49072633)
But postmortem is literally “post death” in Latin. It’s synonymous with autopsy! I know people misuse borrowed words all the time, but come on?!
Re:How is the Bun Rewrite in Rust going? by interroboink on Monday July 27, 2026 @01:19PM (#49072740)
> is literally “post death” in Latin

Yes; I think what I described matches that meaning?

Post-death, as in: "it's over," "activity has halted," "no more work being done."

Death does not necessarily have a bad/negative connotation. It's just the end of something.

This is in contrast to the original comment: "something that went so wrong you had to kill it." Death does not imply something went wrong or that it happened forcefully.

I guess "autopsy" generally is talking about "finding the cause of death" so maybe that has a more negative connotation ("something (bad) happened, causing death, let's find it").

Ah, words with their fuzzy meanings (:

Re:How is the Bun Rewrite in Rust going? by WD-42 on Monday July 27, 2026 @01:37PM (#49073009)
> Post-death, as in: "it's over," "activity has halted," "no more work being done”

Which makes even less sense as we all know software is never done, unless it truly is dead.

Re:How is the Bun Rewrite in Rust going? by vitorfblima on Monday July 27, 2026 @03:12PM (#49074312)
In the context of a game it applies. A game can be "done", as in shipped, no more updates, patches, etc.
Re:How is the Bun Rewrite in Rust going? by thaumasiotes on Monday July 27, 2026 @03:32PM (#49074542)
> But postmortem is literally “post death” in Latin.

Sure, that's true. It's not really relevant to people who don't speak Latin.

> It’s synonymous with autopsy!

This isn't true. I have no idea how you got here. In English an autopsy is a surgical procedure performed on a corpse for the purpose of identifying the cause of death. In particular, it's a noun. "Post-mortem" in the etymologically literal "after death" sense is an adverb or adjective identifying whatever it is as taking place chronologically after some contextually-specified death.

But, you seem to put some weight on the etymology of a word independently of its current meaning. In that case autopsy "literally means" to witness something personally, as opposed to hearing about it from someone else. (It's "self-eye" in Greek just as post mortem is "after death" in Latin.) Somehow I doubt that's what you had in mind...?

Re:How is the Bun Rewrite in Rust going? by brabel on Monday July 27, 2026 @04:24PM (#49075080)
An autopsy is an exam that is performed postmortem. And that’s really how people are using postmortem as a noun for the analysis that they perform after the “death” of a company, so it is a synonym at least approximately, if you don’t see that I guess you don’t have a very good imagination.
Re:How is the Bun Rewrite in Rust going? by thaumasiotes on Monday July 27, 2026 @04:41PM (#49075246)
Try and find me some sentences out there on the internet in which one of the words could be reasonably substituted for the other one.

They don't mean similar things and they aren't used similarly. A postmortem is, as you note in part, a report or a meeting for the purpose of producing or discussing such a report; an autopsy is a surgical procedure. They're as "synonymous" as the words "cigarette" and "cancer".

Re:How is the Bun Rewrite in Rust going? by brabel on Tuesday July 28, 2026 @03:12AM (#49080428)
> They're as "synonymous" as the words "cigarette" and "cancer".

Now you get it.

Re:How is the Bun Rewrite in Rust going? by bee_rider on Monday July 27, 2026 @04:35PM (#49075181)
The postmortem for many cows is “how did you like your hamburger” so it isn’t all bad (from the user point of view at least).
Re:How is the Bun Rewrite in Rust going? by hungryhobbit on Monday July 27, 2026 @08:28PM (#49077652)
Languages change. That word "literally", which you just used, meant one thing for decades (centuries?) ... and now it also (literally) means the exact opposite.

You can be the crabby old guy complaining about how the youth ruined English ... or you can accept that languages aren't immutable, and that the meaning of postmortem is no longer it's literal meaning.

Re:How is the Bun Rewrite in Rust going? by tomlockwood on Monday July 27, 2026 @10:48AM (#49070492)
From the article:

> The goal of a postmortem is to draw meaningful conclusions to help you learn from your past successes and failures. Despite its grim-sounding name, a postmortem can be an extremely productive method of improving your development practices.

Re:How is the Bun Rewrite in Rust going? by dogleash on Monday July 27, 2026 @11:04AM (#49070712)
I've been reading people use "postmortem" to describe software retrospectives for like... 15+ years.

Mostly in the opensource, or marketing-blog spaces. The detailed investigation and fix report was a favorite genre of blogpost. And if someone's bragging about the design of an enhancement, or investigating a bug, then the overall product isn't dead. They're (usually) not talking shit to anyone. It's the bug that's dead. Or security indecent that's over. Or a schedule milestone that's "dead and burred".

It's a 1 chili pepper level of spicy to use a slang term that relates to death. I'd never read it as hoping someone fails. I think people let the corpotalk center of the brain overreact to anything that's not couched in euphemism.

Re:How is the Bun Rewrite in Rust going? by wrs on Monday July 27, 2026 @12:00PM (#49071491)
In the specific case of ship retrospectives, I prefer to call them “postpartums”.
Re:How is the Bun Rewrite in Rust going? by ModernMech on Monday July 27, 2026 @01:11PM (#49072634)
I guess they’re saying their shipped code is DOA?
Re:How is the Bun Rewrite in Rust going? by dagmx on Monday July 27, 2026 @01:20PM (#49072754)
A post mortem is a very common term in many industries on how something went after you shipped it.

You’re taking it very literally here, it does not involve anything being dead or killed.

We’ve used this in the software, games, film and construction industries for decades at this point.

Substitute Mortem for Ship and that’s how people use it.