Re:The Dark Night of Mathematics
by lagrange77 on Saturday July 25, 2026 @04:02PM
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> investigating mathematics is fun whether it is new to the world or not.
Yes exactly. Enjoying the beauty of nature is (thankfully) completely decoupled from the job/money/society side of things.
You can enjoy the beauty of nature, especially mathematics, if you're alive and well enough to focus.
Re:The Dark Night of Mathematics
by Zsfe510asG on Saturday July 25, 2026 @03:47PM
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Yes, we'll have free health care, boomers will rent their apartments for $100, everyone will have UBI and a Tesla with a warp drive that travels to the terraformed Mars.
Hayek and Friedman predicted it!
I almost never hear the story that I find the most believable: that a small group of people will use AI to demolish the 99.999% of us.
I really only find that story believable if we were to restrict AI development and only allow a small group of people to use it.
Also it is just plain transparent projection. I will point out only one ideology outright killed entire classes of people once they were considered 'no longer useful' and that wasn't capitalism, it was communism. And this "capitalists will kill you all if you don't rise up!" propaganda is crusty and old, back since the emergence of computers and the discipline of cybernetics in the classical sense of the word.
Re:The Dark Night of Mathematics
by satvikpendem on Saturday July 25, 2026 @06:12PM
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You never hear this story? It's all everyone is talking about in the media it seems, with "techno fascism" apparently and killer robots in bunkers and K shaped economy. In fact I almost never see the utopic take, everything is just dystopic.
Re:The Dark Night of Mathematics
by vouaobrasil on Sunday July 26, 2026 @01:52AM
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> As for squeezing in the time to do mathematics if the paying jobs disappear, there is a good chance we will have a world of plenty very shortly.
That's laughable. We will NEVER have a world of plenty. If there is a lot more plenty, there will be a lot more people who will want a disproportionate share of it.
As for squeezing in the time to do mathematics if the paying jobs disappear, there is a good chance we will have a world of plenty very shortly. I have a belief that the Austrian economists are right that there will always be plenty for humans to do and get rewarded for, but I also think that the costs of living will be so low that someone who wants to do mathematics will have plenty of time to do so. I hope this person holds the faith long enough and tries to see how the AI's can help accelerate one's own understanding. I am no fan of AIs generating a bunch of papers that no one reads or cares about, but I could say the same about the immense number of papers made by humans as well. If anything, the AIs make all of that immense knowledge more valuable as it is now knowable and accessible through these tools. There is also the fact that the mathematics job market has been oversaturated for at least 20 years. What our new tools allow is for people to be able to do mathematics outside of having access to a research library and top mathematics department.