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Re:What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap by fat on Monday December 10, 2012 @06:07PM (#4902092)
right now it's under the Apache License v2 – but we're working to move it to MIT for 3.0.0

I think of the community as owning bootstrap at this point… maybe that's cheesy? Or naive…

I also think twitter played a larger roll than just hardware. Mark and I were both deeply embedded into the twitter culture (with access to great resources and really smart engineers to bounce ideas off of) and i think bootstrap has a very "twittery" feel as a result.

Re:What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap by DannyBee on Monday December 10, 2012 @07:02PM (#4902351)
If you have no contributor agreements/licenses, how do you plan on moving it to MIT?

From what I see, the best you have is: "By contributing your code, you agree to license your contribution under the terms of the APLv2: https://github.com/twitter/bootstrap/blob/master/LICENSE

(which isn't really that helpful)

Speaking as an corporate IP/open source lawyer, doing this wrong can hurt you very badly in the long run.

Re:What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap by RobAley on Tuesday December 11, 2012 @05:11AM (#4903891)
At a guess, the "working to move it" sentence probably implies that they are trying to get those agreements retrospectively, or re-writing any code that was contributed where they can't. As I understand it, the majority of code was written by themselves, so it shouldn't be too much of a task. Openstreetmap similarly moved licenses recently, they gained agreements where they could and dumped or re-mapped data where they couldn't.

If they aren't planning to do this, then I don't know what the "working to move it" means as it would simply be a 5 minute job to changing the license text.

Re:What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap by caniszczyk on Tuesday December 11, 2012 @11:55AM (#4905338)
The latter is what we are going with.

Follow this issue if you're interested in it: https://github.com/twitter/bootstrap/issues/2054

Re:What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap by sharkweek on Monday December 10, 2012 @06:13PM (#4902136)
(speaking of cheesy) Those who just create awesome tools and release them into the ecosystem free of charge add immeasurable value to the community. I really want to thank you for how much easier you two have made my life with bootstrap on numerous occasions.
Re:What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap by fat on Monday December 10, 2012 @06:31PM (#4902253)
aww <3
Re:What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap by cryowaffle on Monday December 10, 2012 @06:54PM (#4902332)
I have used Bootstrap on 4 or so sites by now and its amazing how divs just get the fuck out of my way now and I can get real work done. Thank you.
Re:What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap by willholloway on Monday December 10, 2012 @08:44PM (#4902654)
Yes. Bootstrap's grid system saves the day, everyday.
Re:What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap by Domenic_S on Monday December 10, 2012 @06:41PM (#4902299)
Same here. I'd offer to buy you a beer, but I imagine you've got plenty of those offers already ;)
Re:What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap by novamantis on Tuesday December 11, 2012 @12:00AM (#4903097)
I bet he's swimming in beer donations that have filled his pool.

Also, thank you Fat for making my life so much easier.

Re:What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap by Killswitch on Monday December 10, 2012 @11:37PM (#4903032)
I too would like to jump on this bandwagon of thanking you for Bootstrap. Cheers fat.
Re:What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap by kibwen on Tuesday December 11, 2012 @08:25AM (#4904405)

  > right now it's under the Apache License v2 – but we're
  > working to move it to MIT for 3.0.0
What's the impetus for this? Losing patent protection and gaining strict GPL2 compatibility seems like a strange decision.
Re:What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap by caniszczyk on Tuesday December 11, 2012 @11:12AM (#4905084)
See this issue for more information:

https://github.com/twitter/bootstrap/issues/2054

Re:What I Learned Building Twitter Bootstrap by kibwen on Tuesday December 11, 2012 @03:31PM (#4906634)
Interesting, thanks. It looks as though you rejected the idea of dual-licensing. It's totally understandable that you'd want to avoid the hassle, although a dual MIT/ASL2 really does give you the maximum protection and flexibility. There's at least one big open-source project that's recently taken this exact route:

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.rust.devel/2593/matc...

...though in their case they were moving from MIT to a dual MIT/ASL2.