Re:Happy birthday, Ada Lovelace — the first computer programmer
by mhartl on Monday December 10, 2012 @07:34PM
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According to Wikipedia, it's probable that Lovelace's contributions are overrated; it would appear that Lady Ada has little claim to the title of "first computer programmer". [1] But if you're looking for a female computer hero, you're in luck: Grace Hopper developed the first compiler, popularized the term "debugging", and was an admiral in the Navy to boot. [2]
In 1952 she had an operational compiler.
"Nobody believed that," she said. "I had a
running compiler and nobody would touch it.
They told me computers could only do arithmetic."
Re:Happy birthday, Ada Lovelace — the first computer programmer
by jsqr on Monday December 10, 2012 @08:33PM
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Some of the claims made about Ada are certainly mistaken, but there are also good arguments for genuine, important contributions. See, for example, Babbage historian Doron Swade's discussion of her insight into potential applications of the Analytical Engine beyond numeric calculation (beginning at 36:30):
Re:Happy birthday, Ada Lovelace — the first computer programmer
by pilgrim689 on Monday December 10, 2012 @10:03PM
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I don't understand this comment. Why are we looking for one single all-mighty "female computer hero"? Can't we recognize the different women in computer science and appreciate their contributions individually without trying to put one above all others?
Re:Happy birthday, Ada Lovelace — the first computer programmer
by mhartl on Wednesday December 12, 2012 @07:58PM
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The "if" in "if you're looking..." isn't merely rhetorical. As it happens, I'm not particularly looking for a female computer hero, but many others are, as evidenced by those well-intentioned but misguided people who have promoted Ada Lovelace well beyond her station. I'm merely pointing out that this is unnecessary, because there is a first-rate example in Grace Hopper.
Re:Happy birthday, Ada Lovelace — the first computer programmer
by scarmig on Monday December 10, 2012 @07:53PM
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Seconded. Lovelace deserves some place in the history books, but her pre-eminence doesn't do those of us concerned with gender justice in computing any good.
Grace Hopper, on the other hand, is a badass by any measure.
Re:Happy birthday, Ada Lovelace — the first computer programmer
by duaneb on Monday December 10, 2012 @10:11PM
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Grace Hopper is a computer hero, period. Gender and sex have very little to do with her accomplishments, and she is a perfect example to show that women are just as capable as men are, even in an unwelcome environment.
Re:Happy birthday, Ada Lovelace — the first computer programmer
by Posibyte on Monday December 10, 2012 @08:30PM
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Ada Lovelace was a legitimate child of Lord Byron and his wife Anne Isabella Byron. In fact, she was the only one. Just wanted to make that correction.
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_hopper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K5p_tBcrd0
By the way, a very good biography of Grace Hopper was published a few years ago:
http://mitpress.mit.edu/books/grace-hopper-and-invention-inf...
Grace Hopper, on the other hand, is a badass by any measure.
- http://blog.jgc.org/2011/09/lovelaces-leap.html
- http://blog.jgc.org/2012/10/marie-curie-day.html
HN discussion of this blog post: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4902787
Marie Curie day: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4658763
P.S: Posted previously on another Lovelace thread, but thread discussion had stopped by then.