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Re:“We have information that Moonshot distilled Fable for th... by slibhb on Wednesday July 22, 2026 @03:41PM (#49012323)
Of course it matters. Regardless of whether distillation is legal, there is a difference between training a model with and without distillation. For one thing, the distilled model wouldn't exist without the model it distilled.

Also, companies that use distillation may be competitive but seem unlikely to surpass the companies that are training these models from scratch.

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Re:“We have information that Moonshot distilled Fable for th... by bilbo0s on Wednesday July 22, 2026 @05:31PM (#49013749)
>but seem unlikely to surpass the companies that are training these models from scratch

Then why is it a problem?

Another serious question.

Trying to get my head around what the root of the objection is here. There must be some fear, but if that fear is not a fear of being surpassed in the market, then what is the fear?

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Re:“We have information that Moonshot distilled Fable for th... by slibhb on Wednesday July 22, 2026 @06:41PM (#49014469)
I didn't say it was a problem, I said it "mattered"

If I wanted to argue that it's a problem, I'd just say that companies investing billions in training frontier models should reap the rewards. And distillation is essentially theft.

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Re:“We have information that Moonshot distilled Fable for th... by overfeed on Wednesday July 22, 2026 @06:16PM (#49014210)
A fear of competition causing a failure to recoup the trillions invested in AI via sky-high margins, and starting a (short) chain-reaction that causes the bubble to pop (or fizzle). A lot of people have a lot riding on the AI bubble not popping.
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