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Re:Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade... by JumpCrisscross on Friday July 10, 2026 @07:56PM (#48866890)
We need criminal charges to be filed against Liu, Tan and Peng. (And deep discovery to find anything Altman might have said to or about them.)
Re:Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade... by nujabe on Friday July 10, 2026 @08:19PM (#48867067)
Wait, who is “we”? Why are you so invested in enforcing Apple’s IP rights?
Re:Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade... by IcyWindows on Friday July 10, 2026 @08:23PM (#48867097)
Some people care about justice in general?

Also, normalizing stealing IP is only going to have bad consequences for everyone.

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Re:Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade... by afthonos on Friday July 10, 2026 @09:11PM (#48867503)
That is a true statement. Here is another one:

Some people like to talk about “some people” snidely, instead of just coming out and saying “GP is bloodthirsty and gets a little thrill [etc].” Because of course, that’s what they mean, but they can’t back it up.

Just to clarify, I’m talking about you.

Re:Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade... by nullc on Friday July 10, 2026 @10:33PM (#48868075)
Would you like me too? I thought it unnecessary and needlessly rude to single anyone out: There are many examples of HN regulars behaving this way, and in my impression it has considerably increased over the last six years. I'm sure I could find a post or two of my own that is guilty of it-- it's increasingly the culture here, as unfortunate as it is and it's something we should all watch out for to avoid it in ourselves and to discount it in others.
Re:Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade... by afthonos on Saturday July 11, 2026 @12:10AM (#48868648)
I think it’s possible to observe something and be sure that it’s true in aggregate without being able to accuse any one individual of it. I propose that in those cases, bringing it up in response to an individual is not a good move. It doesn’t sound any less accusatory for being ostensibly about the general public.
Re:Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade... by kccqzy on Friday July 10, 2026 @09:46PM (#48867734)
It’s a criminal charge. Have you seen a legal case for that? It’s always something like The People of California v. Someone. At least in theory, every citizen is an interested party when the prosecutor files a criminal case.
Re:Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade... by mcmcmc on Friday July 10, 2026 @08:37PM (#48867206)
Why don’t you care about the rule of law?
Re:Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade... by im3w1l on Friday July 10, 2026 @11:22PM (#48868407)
Bad people in control of AI is incredibly dangerous.
Re:Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade... by parineum on Saturday July 11, 2026 @01:18PM (#48873803)
Good thing they're just in control of a bunch of LLMs.
Re:Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade... by gessha on Saturday July 11, 2026 @09:46AM (#48872019)
It’s because of people like those that companies invent a circus full of hoops to jump through to access a random PDF that you need to do your job.
Re:Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade... by cosmicgadget on Friday July 10, 2026 @09:02PM (#48867434)
If you're interested in seeing them prosecuted you probably want to wait a couple of years. The current DOJ isn't doing so hot.
Re:Apple sues OpenAI, accuses ex-employees of stealing trade... by JumpCrisscross on Friday July 10, 2026 @09:06PM (#48867465)
> current DOJ isn't doing so hot

Hit them with state charges. Altman being a brat makes this politically attractive for any AG with ambitions.