Yes, there are generally two kinds of people:

Those who like having a finished thing. Product people. These people love LLMs.

Those who love the process of building a thing, working through a problem, learning something new. Finishing a project is generally not required. For them LLMs are soul sucking hell.

Yeah, the people that recognize progress is through effort and mastery, and those that would gladly do away with effort, quality be damned.

This is just a purity test disguised in high minded rhetoric. Defining "quality" in practice is both impractical and a matter of opinion. Building something first, and making it better later, is it's own form of quality.

> do you mean my enjoyment from building things? I'm genuinely confused by this response.

I'm not surprised - your GGP comment indicated that you are more interested in the destination than the journey (you enjoy the output more than the process of crafting that output).

Nothing wrong with that - lots of programmers are interested in the final deliverable and don't really care about how the sausage is made, but you're reading a comment from someone who makes the sausage.

I never said I don't care about the coding itself, or the underlying quality of my systems. I can care about more than one thing, while still identifying goals that I have for how I spend my time.

You said "the coding is just a means to an end, try not to think too hard about the how".

That's tantamount to "I don't care about the coding itself, or the underlying quality of my systems".

It's not tantamount to that outside of your imagination. I've spend 30 years coding, I'm well aware the the underlying quality of the systems I build. Please try not to impart upon me these beliefs I do not hold. I stand by my initial statement, which in no way should be regarded as "I don't care about the coding itself". That's just your way of disregarding information you don't like to hear. It's an odious habit from people that disregard clarification in favor of their own preconceived views.

It's tantamount using the accepted definitions of the words in the language we're speaking.

Your comment is incredibly aggressive, hostile, and rude, of out nowhere. You should review the guidelines [1]. It's deeply disingenuous to either communicate really poorly or to backtrack from your position unannounced and then get aggressive about it when people engage with you.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> That's tantamount to "I don't care about the coding itself, or the underlying quality of my systems".

This is "incredibly aggressive, hostile, and rude, of out nowhere". Please leave me alone, I have nothing else to say to people like you.

For anyone else, imagine a winemaker that cares about their end product more than they care about growing grapes.. does that mean this winemaker doesn't care about the quality of their grapes? Probably not, but apparently to this individual the english language requires that we believe the winemaker to be disingenuous if they clarify their position on grape quality.