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Re:No LLM Code in Dependencies by gspr on Thursday July 02, 2026 @05:05PM (#48767366)
Then you don't have time to maintain the codebase. Sad, but sometimes true.
Re:No LLM Code in Dependencies by sscaryterry on Thursday July 02, 2026 @05:11PM (#48767422)
When given the choice between putting food on the table, and being a purist, I'd take some bread. It is hard out there.
Re:No LLM Code in Dependencies by gspr on Friday July 03, 2026 @02:02AM (#48771366)
Sure. I did not mean to throw shade at people whose professional survival depends on doing this.

I'm merely trying to establish that it's bad. A lot of HN seems to be cheering for the badness. That is, to me, unfathomable.

Re:No LLM Code in Dependencies by sscaryterry on Friday July 03, 2026 @03:59AM (#48772208)
You are trying to establish that it is bad based on your beliefs.

I've pointed out to you that LLMs are forced onto people. I fear you are out of touch with the job market requirements of 2026.

Re:No LLM Code in Dependencies by gspr on Friday July 03, 2026 @04:11AM (#48772297)
Huh? You can accept things that are forced onto you, due to needing to earn a living, while still acknowledging that the things that are forced onto you are bad.

All I'm trying to say here is that slopcode is generally a bad idea. If you are forced to slopcode to earn a living, I am not saying you shouldn't do that ("be a purist", as you'd put it). I'm just trying to point out that HN doesn't seem to generally acknowledge that concept as being bad.

Re:No LLM Code in Dependencies by sscaryterry on Friday July 03, 2026 @05:02AM (#48772666)
I think it is much too early to outright say it is bad. Very few things are trivial enough to classify in a binary way as in bad or good.

Slop is not okay, this isn't disputed.

When you say "If you are forced to slopcode" you are implying that LLMs (or humans who operate the tools) can only produce slop with it.

Re:No LLM Code in Dependencies by gspr on Friday July 03, 2026 @05:25AM (#48772877)
> When you say "If you are forced to slopcode" you are implying that LLMs (or humans who operate the tools) can only produce slop with it.

No.

Re:No LLM Code in Dependencies by sscaryterry on Friday July 03, 2026 @05:39AM (#48772968)
Fair enough. Honestly, nobody is "forced" to slopcode, this is the human's decision, no?
Re:No LLM Code in Dependencies by gspr on Friday July 03, 2026 @07:49AM (#48773899)
Re:No LLM Code in Dependencies by sscaryterry on Friday July 03, 2026 @08:11AM (#48774064)
!Purist != Slopper

Just because you are forced to use an LLM, does not mean you can only produce slop.

Re:No LLM Code in Dependencies by gspr on Friday July 03, 2026 @08:13AM (#48774089)
Of course. What's your point?
Re:No LLM Code in Dependencies by simonw on Thursday July 02, 2026 @05:05PM (#48767368)
Welcome to volunteer-driven open source.

(Update: you're a Debian developer so you're even more familiar with how that world works than I am.)