Re:Austria Lobbies EU to Host Anthropic After US Access Curbs
by re-framer on Sunday June 28, 2026 @11:44AM
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Renewables can be combined with storage technologies such as batteries, so the syllogism "no generation during Dunkelflaute, but need reliablye generation -> renewables not viable" is too simple. My question is about whether renewables with storage technologies are a viable replacement for the gas power plants.
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Re:Austria Lobbies EU to Host Anthropic After US Access Curbs
by dcrazy on Sunday June 28, 2026 @12:03PM
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There are many facets of “viability”: technical, economic, political. There is obviously some reason why new gas plants are being built instead of renewables with storage.
Re:Austria Lobbies EU to Host Anthropic After US Access Curbs
by re-framer on Sunday June 28, 2026 @12:16PM
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Yes, and I'm still interested in better understanding that reason. My previous response just noted that the explanation you gave seemed overly simplistic to me in that it did not address that renewable energy can be stored, making it less volatile.
Re:Austria Lobbies EU to Host Anthropic After US Access Curbs
by dcrazy on Sunday June 28, 2026 @12:47PM
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I live near one of the world’s largest grid scale battery facilities. It was in the news last year for catching fire and filling the air with lithium. [0] So I’m aware of the technology’s existence. But I also know that it’s still a very young technology, with battery chemistry constantly improving. There are also inherent losses going to and from AC power, which is what the grid operates on and which most plants produce.
[0] https://www.readymontereycounty.org/emergency/2025-moss-land...
Re:Austria Lobbies EU to Host Anthropic After US Access Curbs
by apeescape on Sunday June 28, 2026 @12:19PM
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I think you overestimate the currently available storage technologies. Batteries are very limited in capacity and super expensive in large scale. Hydrogen or synthetic methane might work, but those are gases, if you were opposed to them.
Re:Austria Lobbies EU to Host Anthropic After US Access Curbs
by xienze on Sunday June 28, 2026 @01:14PM
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> My question is about whether renewables with storage technologies are a viable replacement for the gas power plants.
I'm guessing probably not. If it was truly the no-brainer "cheap AND fast AND better" option everyone thinks it is, data centers would be rolling out renewables right now. They're not so dumb that they'd pass up on a superior, cheaper solution just because.