Re:Signs you're a dangerous terrorist: using Signal, moving ...
by GaryBluto on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @08:18AM
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I found the wording of "inciting violence" odd - surely firing a rifle at police officers is violence and not simply incitement for others to join in? It sounds like the author of the article is so obsessed with the social ramifications of acts they can't see the literal ones.
Re:Signs you're a dangerous terrorist: using Signal, moving ...
by stillvasals on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @09:10AM
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Well shit won't change through voting, it has been tried for the last 25 years. At some point you need ask yourself do you want this system of extreme wealth accumulation to change? Do you think billionaires and trillionaires really give a fuck about you or the country you live in? They're an international class they can move and live anywhere. You on the other hand are bound by your ability to sell your labor.
Re:Signs you're a dangerous terrorist: using Signal, moving ...
by mmonaghan on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @10:47AM
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The country has changed massively through voting in the last 25 years. I would rather not change to a system where political groups attack others with guns and bombs to change things, because that's the alternative you're proposing.
Touch grass, find a significant other, and build a life.
Re:Signs you're a dangerous terrorist: using Signal, moving ...
by soulofmischief on Wednesday June 24, 2026 @09:51AM
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The use of private communications absolutely, fundamentally, positively, holistically cannot be allowed to be recognized as "evidence" for anything, including planned violence, or we have lost the final fight and society is doomed forever.
Do not let your apathy be the tool of another man's evil.
This is the crux of the issue - from the perspective of the government, this was a group of people who lead an armed terrorist attack on a government facility in order to disrupt the functioning of that facility because they held an ideological belief that the facility was immoral; and it's irrelevant that not every member of the group personally shot a cop with an AR-15, just as it wasn't relevant that Osama bin Laden didn't personally hijack any planes and crash them into buildings when the US government sent special forces to break into his compound and kill him.
> Instead, other “evidence” was used to infer that they planned violence, including this specific argument that should give everyone pause:
> “[…] including their decision to communicate and auto-delete messages on Signal, an encrypted messaging platform widely used among activists, journalists and other citizens wary of government surveillance.”
Given that the other evidence that they planned violence was that they set off fireworks outside the facility, vandalized it, and then shot a cop in the neck when the cop came to investigate the vandalism, I don't really care that the government prosecutors also considered their use of Signal as evidence that they planned violence. Frankly, if you're part of a group that is planning violence, it is a good idea to use an encrypted messaging platform like Signal that has an auto-delete feature to do that planning, the prosecutors are correct to note this.