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Re: Clearest indication yet that polar ice sheets are meltin... by nitrogen on Sunday December 02, 2012 @10:02PM (#4863680)
Science is science because it is allowed to change its mind when presented with new data.
Re: Clearest indication yet that polar ice sheets are meltin... by PakG1 on Sunday December 02, 2012 @10:31PM (#4863783)
The unfortunate thing happens when incomplete science is used for political posturing and policy.
Re: Clearest indication yet that polar ice sheets are meltin... by ThisIBereave on Monday December 03, 2012 @12:52AM (#4864147)
There certainly does seem to be a lot of political posturing going on, but I don't think it is coming from the scientists.
Re: Clearest indication yet that polar ice sheets are meltin... by PakG1 on Monday December 03, 2012 @02:16AM (#4864327)
Although I never said that it was, I would at the same time caution against making broad sweeping statements.
Re: Clearest indication yet that polar ice sheets are meltin... by CamperBob2 on Sunday December 02, 2012 @10:31PM (#4863784)
Economics is a bit different. When you make economic decisions based on questionable data, people suffer.
Re: Clearest indication yet that polar ice sheets are meltin... by nitrogen on Monday December 03, 2012 @09:08AM (#4865388)
I've never understood this argument in the context of AGW. It sounds like saying, "What if we clean up the air and breathe easier for no good reason?"
Re: Clearest indication yet that polar ice sheets are meltin... by CamperBob2 on Monday December 03, 2012 @02:45PM (#4867392)
And I, in turn, have never understood the argument you mention. Regulations have effects, both malevolent and benign. When regulations are enforced, someone wins, someone else loses. If we "clean up the air and breathe easier" as you put, it but millions of people end up in poverty (or worse), is that a net win?

We would unquestionably have cleaner air if we shut down all coal-fired generating plants and banned the internal combustion engine tomorrow. There are excellent reasons to do just that, environmentally speaking. But does it sound like a good idea to you? If so, then you may need to think things through a little farther, I believe.

Re: Clearest indication yet that polar ice sheets are meltin... by eru on Sunday December 02, 2012 @10:48PM (#4863847)
If you don't make a decision, people might suffer, too.
Re: Clearest indication yet that polar ice sheets are meltin... by CamperBob2 on Sunday December 02, 2012 @11:09PM (#4863906)
A great deal of suffering can arise from this line of reasoning.