I agree. It's the robust old-school lobby type community and it's great. Multiple sub communities with different cultures and players depending on the tradition of map type and settings.

New or casual players going into the wrong lobbies (non-noob 'All that glitters' lobbies for instance) are going to have a bad time.

yeah , those who just tried this and went to wrong lobbies i guess. also they havne't play any games for quite a while it seems, they haven't met LoL , CoD communities.